Re: Post-Alden Report, UL still seeks multimedia partner
...under Farmer media and marketing was treated more like an infomercial, not a revenue-generating commodity.
It's all about marketing!!!
Re: Post-Alden Report, UL still seeks multimedia partner
Re: Post-Alden Report, UL still seeks multimedia partner
This was talked about last week by Maggard they want to buy new Cameras by the sunbelt baseball tourny
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
ULGrad@HOU
There are legitimate points here, time will tell. I'm as anxious as anyone, I want it done yesterday.
Between the hiring in March, and him getting his arms around what he's got we've made one important hire. A lot of getting ready to do something. I'd expect some pretty big announcements in the near future.
I'm thinking that's why he's made himself available to the Advertiger and BEV.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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CajunEXPRESS
I'm thinking that's why he's made himself available to the Advertiger and BEV.
Or he doesn't frequent the Corner Bar...
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
That guy is gone. I'm not piling more earth on his grave. I wanted him gone since the first SBC shakeup. Some here wanted to give him more time. We're four years behind.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
I just hate that we were behind the big cluster of conference shuffling when we finally got our s___ together.
Once most of the realignment chips had already fallen was when we put together a good stretch of football/bowl wins, an NCAA tournament bid, hosted a super regional..in addition to a heavy investment into athletic facilities and a shuffling of athletic leadership/vision.
I'll give Farmer some credit where it's due. A lot of projects did get started under his watch. I'll thank him for that. It just seemed he lacked the leadership or foresight to take those things and parlay them into the next step for Louisiana athletics. If another round of realignment does come on, I have no doubt were in better position to be more attractive than we were 5 years ago. I hope Maggard and co have the vision for making it happen.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
cb089
I just hate that we were behind the big cluster of conference shuffling when we finally got our s___ together.
Once most of the realignment chips had already fallen was when we put together a good stretch of football/bowl wins, an NCAA tournament bid, hosted a super regional..in addition to a heavy investment into athletic facilities and a shuffling of athletic leadership/vision.
I'll give Farmer some credit where it's due. A lot of projects did get started under his watch. I'll thank him for that. It just seemed he lacked the leadership or foresight to take those things and parlay them into the next step for Louisiana athletics. If another round of realignment does come on, I have no doubt were in better position to be more attractive than we were 5 years ago. I hope Maggard and co have the vision for making it happen.
Scott Farmer grew the job into something he could personally no longer manage. For that, I am thankful. However, it was obvious that he could no longer handle the job long before any attempt to replace him was made.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
Let's let Farmer alone. He's gone, if he should have been gone sooner it's on T Joe.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
Scuttlebutt6
Scott Farmer grew the job into something he could personally no longer manage. For that, I am thankful. However, it was obvious that he could no longer handle the job long before any attempt to replace him was made.
And all the errors made while this growth was going on may have slowed it down to where it could have been. You could almost argue that it took place in spite of his presence. I would attribute it to having Hud with early success generating general fan (not hardcore) interest and T-Joe being in charge and willing to allow the interest to go beyond the interest phase. Numerous times in the previous thirty years that wasn't the case. JMO
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
Since the man is not here to defend himself, I will.
Any of you ever thought that a lot of the things recommended by the Alden report were already suggested to Martin Hall by SF before the report ever happened?
If you haven't thought about it, you really, really should.
Whatever you guys think about SF, he is not stupid.
Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't have changed the AD. It was needed from a PR standpoint at the very least, but I get the impression that whoever was the AD during the years SF did the job would have received the same treatment from Martin Hall.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
CajunNation
Since the man is not here to defend himself, I will.
Any of you ever thought that a lot of the things recommended by the Alden report were already suggested to Martin Hall by SF before the report ever happened?
If you haven't thought about it, you really, really should.
Whatever you guys think about SF, he is not stupid.
Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't have changed the AD. It was needed from a PR standpoint at the very least, but I get the impression that whoever was the AD during the years SF did the job would have received the same treatment from Martin Hall.
The one thing I have bad to say about SF is that he blamed everyone else for the problems instead of addressing them himself
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
It all boils down to raising the money.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
CajunNation
Since the man is not here to defend himself, I will.
Any of you ever thought that a lot of the things recommended by the Alden report were already suggested to Martin Hall by SF before the report ever happened?
If you haven't thought about it, you really, really should.
Whatever you guys think about SF, he is not stupid.
Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't have changed the AD. It was needed from a PR standpoint at the very least, but I get the impression that whoever was the AD during the years SF did the job would have received the same treatment from Martin Hall.
All those issues would have caused way more work and much more skill than he possessed and he knew it. Fake it until you make it...won't get you to the next level...but it will get you a long way.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
CajunNation
Since the man is not here to defend himself, I will.
Any of you ever thought that a lot of the things recommended by the Alden report were already suggested to Martin Hall by SF before the report ever happened?
If you haven't thought about it, you really, really should.
Whatever you guys think about SF, he is not stupid.
Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't have changed the AD. It was needed from a PR standpoint at the very least, but I get the impression that whoever was the AD during the years SF did the job would have received the same treatment from Martin Hall.
How agressivw can you be in the fox hole called the corner bar. Farmer was outfoxed in everything from uniforms to overpaying Hud who had one season under his belt at the time.
I challenge your claims that he was smart or trying. His main concern was clearly trying to cover up his ineptitude at a job that was way beyond his ability even at ten million.
I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie, but not when we get revisionist accounting of events. And let's not forget the lying, the two screwups on the Tigue.
Let's not forget that he was fine with a downgrade to the APC until Hud took over Farmers job. How about trying to stiff the assistant coaches on bowl bonuses.
He was one of the worst employees we've ever had in a position of power and influence.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
CajunEXPRESS
How agressivw can you be in the fox hole called the corner bar. Farmer was outfoxed in everything from uniforms to overpaying Hud who had one season under his belt at the time.
I challenge your claims that he was smart or trying. His main concern was clearly trying to cover up his ineptitude at a job that was way beyond his ability even at ten million.
I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie, but not when we get revisionist accounting of events. And let's not forget the lying, the two screwups on the Tigue.
Let's not forget that he was fine with a downgrade to the APC until Hud took over Farmers job. How about trying to stiff the assistant coaches on bowl bonuses.
He was one of the worst employees we've ever had in a position of power and influence.
Let's not forget the softball fiasco with Mike.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
Scuttlebutt6
Scott Farmer grew the job into something he could personally no longer manage. For that, I am thankful. However, it was obvious that he could no longer handle the job long before any attempt to replace him was made.
Scott Farmer grew his job as far as his vision took it, the SUNBELT CONFERENCE. That was the model he believed in and the model in which he earned the vast majority of his experience in between Troy and UL. He had neither the contacts, vision or knowledge to lead this program beyond it's current status today.
As someone else rightly pointed out in this thread, he was hamstrung financially at times by Martin Hall. But he also learned from his predecessor David Walker that it was much easier to accept those decisions as final, and simply not challenge the status-quo by being creative and pursuing other avenues for raising revenue.
He gave us a base to build upon with improved facilities. And that should be his legacy, bringing UL from the depths of the worst facilities in the SBC other than ULM to it's current status, up until the inception of Russo Park at Tigue Moore Field project.
We now have a group of professionals running our athletic program and fundraising for RCAF. Under the training and tutelage of Alden and Jones, we are already miles ahead of where we were in the spring of 2016 in building relationships, respect and future planning.
At this time in history, our opportunity to be more relevant beyond a regional conference may be long gone, but at least I can see my money at work with this group of professionals.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
CajunT
Scott Farmer grew his job as far as his vision took it, the SUNBELT CONFERENCE. That was the model he believed in and the model in which he earned the vast majority of his experience in between Troy and UL. He had neither the contacts, vision or knowledge to lead this program beyond it's current status today.
As someone else rightly pointed out in this thread, he was hamstrung financially at times by Martin Hall. But he also learned from his predecessor David Walker that it was much easier to accept those decisions as final, and simply not challenge the status-quo by being creative and pursuing other avenues for raising revenue.
He gave us a base to build upon with improved facilities. And that should be his legacy, bringing UL from the depths of the worst facilities in the SBC other than ULM to it's current status, up until the inception of Russo Park at Tigue Moore Field project.
We now have a group of professionals running our athletic program and fundraising for RCAF. Under the training and tutelage of Alden and Jones, we are already miles ahead of where we were in the spring of 2016 in building relationships, respect and future planning.
At this time in history, our opportunity to be more relevant beyond a regional conference may be long gone, but at least I can see my money at work with this group of professionals.
F&B
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
California Cajun
It all boils down to raising the money.
Cali is spot on with his observation. There is one other point here people are failing to realize. In this economy, there is not much money to be raised as it is simply not available. In the last year, Chevron has basically left the area and Stone Energy has let go the majority of their employees. I walk out of the front door of my house and I see three for sale signs on nearby homes and those signs have been there for months. The area has diversified some economically and that is preventing an even bigger issue. However, energy still drives things and things will be tough until that turns around. I don't see that happening anytime soon due to the fracking boom in West Texas and New Mexico. Gulf or Mexico projects simply cannot compete with those plays economically. Lack of available funds is the main reason many of the Alden suggestions have not been implemented. Maggard and Harris have great challenges in front of them as a result.
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Mike, people make time and make room in their budgets for the things they really enjoy or can't live without. It's is the responsibility of our leadership/fundraiser team to make this program and it's value so appealing to supporters and alumni that it's a constant line item on the yearly budget.
I'm not going to rehash Farmer, but it is a matter of fact that Farmer slowed and in some cases crippled our growth as a program. These are facts: the guy mislead donors, mislead his superiors, bred distrust amongst his staff, mishandled money, hindered fundraisers, EMBARRASSED private donors that took him to meet other administrations for relationship building (so inherently embarrassed all of us), alienated coaches, all but destroyed media and exposure for our brand's success, and failed to connect with the donor base in a worthwhile way.
Yes, he did suggest certain things that made sense. So has anyone that has ever worked in any office, any where in the world. It doesn't take much skill to suggest things, especially when you figure the time will never come when you personally have to drive the bus on said suggestions (Repubkicans and Obamacare anyone?).
The fact of the matter is, Farmer's time here was linked to the most successful years of FB we've ever seen in Lafayette and that my friends, is why we built a more solid foundation for where we are today. Money and exposure was a direct result of Football's success.
We are now in good hands, and this new direction will manifest itself in untold success as an athletic program.
Re: Many Alden Report suggestions unaddressed
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Originally Posted by
ManAboutTown
Mike, people make time and make room in their budgets for the things they really enjoy or can't live without. It's is the responsibility of our leadership/fundraiser team to make this program and it's value so appealing to supporters and alumni that it's a constant line item on the yearly budget.
I'm not going to rehash Farmer, but it is a matter of fact that Farmer slowed and in some cases crippled our growth as a program. These are facts: the guy mislead donors, mislead his superiors, bred distrust amongst his staff, mishandled money, hindered fundraisers, EMBARRASSED private donors that took him to meet other administrations for relationship building (so inherently embarrassed all of us), alienated coaches, all but destroyed media and exposure for our brand's success, and failed to connect with the donor base in a worthwhile way.
Yes, he did suggest certain things that made sense. So has anyone that has ever worked in any office, any where in the world. It doesn't take much skill to suggest things, especially when you figure the time will never come when you personally have to drive the bus on said suggestions (Repubkicans and Obamacare anyone?).
The fact of the matter is, Farmer's time here was linked to the most successful years of FB we've ever seen in Lafayette and that my friends, is why we built a more solid foundation for where we are today. Money and exposure was a direct result of Football's success.
We are now in good hands, and this new direction will manifest itself in untold success as an athletic program.
My post was not meant to address the performance of the previous AD in any way-negative or positive. As others have said, he has moved on to a new role perhaps more suited for his skills and he still supports the teams. What my post was meant to highlight was the tremendous challenge the current administrators have due to the current economic plight of the area. I don't think everyone realizes how poor the economic situation is and the issue cannot be overstated. I have no doubt the guys in charge now are qualified and will be able to address most of these challenges.
