Not this time. This time we were Sally'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeebart21
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Not this time. This time we were Sally'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeebart21
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It's a case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.:???:
just elect savoie and get it over with :)
How so? I'm no fan of Sally, and T Joe or Landry may do a fine job (both seem to be well thought of and respected) but the process has all appearances of being rigged from the beginning and the 2 leading candidates were the ones rumored to be Dr. A's choices before the process started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer58
T-nom it all started with the open application process. Not begrudging your fine school, but ya'll weren't subject to an open application process last time you chose a president. We shouldn't have been forced to either. Sally C refused to be questioned about the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by LsuULfan
This thing may very well have been rigged. Maybe Dr A and Sally C. should both be thrown under a bus?
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Maybe we just forgot how to go about getting a new president. I mean it has been 30 years since we last chose a new president.
Call me Oliver Stone, but I think it started before that-the Open Process was part of or because of the fix-they never intended to have a credible "search". Look-I gather Savoie and Landy are good guys so I don't mean this as a criticism of them-but I also think UL-if it wd have had a real "search" [closed like LSU did] that a good candidate w/national credentials could have been found. I think UL is an excellent university w/plenty of upside and that other candidates wd have seen that. I wd tend to agree on the 2 people (if not more) that need to be thrown under the bus on this ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeebart21
I personally don't know if they are good guys are not, T. I have been told by folks that I respect that they are top notch. I think we both believe the same things with regards to this farcical process..... Its business as usual @ good ole U.L.L. ;) what a pis.ser.Quote:
Originally Posted by LsuULfan
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Clausen will be the next Commisioner of Higher Education After Dr. S is out of the way and becomes President of UL.
Take that wherever you want to...
... also remember Clausen's ties to SLU and that SLU is within a couple dozen students from being the largest U in the UL system.
man... I love Louisiana!
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The list of who could be UL's next president looks something like this:
A chemical engineer now working to create a national wind energy research center in Texas.
An academic vice president with 31 years at the university he now hopes to lead.
A Marine who's commanded thousands of Marines and sailors and is president of a national organization that raises and distributes scholarship money.
A violinist serving as CEO of a campus of 5,000 students.
And the state's commissioner of higher education who's overseen the state's colleges and universities for the past 11 years.
But is one of them right to be UL's next president?
The community isn't completely won over.
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"For vice presidents at Big 10 and ACC schools who want to go on to a Virginia or a Berkeley, UL would be a great springboard, but we didn't see any of those people," said Joseph Abraham, founder of the nonprofit Acadiana Educational Endowment. "I don't feel the candidates are strong."
A few faculty members also have questioned how the selection committee went about the business of paring down the candidates and the time it took. The committee met in executive session for about two hours and emerged with a short list for interviews.
The process wasn't a two-hour meeting, said UL System President Sally Clausen, who chairs the search committee as a nonvoting member.
"Individual search committee members have been doing their homework and referencing early on. When they came to the two-hour committee discussion, it was about why certain candidates did rise to the level of an interview," Clausen said.
When faculty questions were first addressed by The Daily Advertiser last week, Clausen was unavailable for comment.
"There is no intention here to be secretive," Clausen said, "because the intent is to try to encourage public involvement. The only reason for an executive session is when you're discussing personnel matters, you have to be candid in your questions and answers."
John Meriwether, who represents the faculty on the committee, could not be reached for further comment, but he stood by the committee's decisions in an earlier interview.
Student representative Candace Urbanowski said it would have been impossible to make the decision had committee members not done their homework before the meeting.
"It wasn't an easy task to narrow it down, but everybody listened to what the public wanted," Urbanowski said. "I'm very pleased with the five candidates and I think any of them are more than qualified to meet the needs of our university."
Ron Cheek was one of the faculty members who's questioning e-mail to Meriwether was sent anonymously to reporters at media outlets in Lafayette. When reached Thursday, Cheek didn't comment further about his statements but rather questioned the "silence" from business and community leaders.
"When a decision that can impact us for years and years to come - where's the leadership of the community? Where's the community leaders? Why haven't they stepped up and been counted?" Cheek questioned.
He said he thinks the university needs, "vibrant, innovative leadership" but wouldn't comment on the five candidates.
There was also complaints that two candidates - state higher education commissioner Joseph Savoie and UL vice president of academic affairs Steve Landry - are marked as "insiders" and have an automatic advantage over the other candidates: Raymond Flumerfelt, director of University of Houston; Karen White, regional chancellor for the University of South Florida at St. Petersburg; and Clifford Stanley, a retired Marine major general and president of Scholarship America, a private organization that awards scholarships to college students across the country.
Only one candidate makes it clear in his introductory letter that he was contacted by the system to think about applying for the job.
In Flumerfelt's introductory letter, he thanks Clausen for contacting him about the position.
Savoie states that he's accepting a nomination from one of the state's higher education regents, Richard D'Aquin. No nomination was necessary to apply for the position.
Complaints that not all of the candidates have Ph.Ds aren't exactly justifiable, according to Clausen.
All hold a doctorate from an accredited institution, which was one of the desired qualifications expressed by the public.
Two of the candidates have Ph.Ds -Flumerfelt's is in chemical engineering; Landry's is in computer science.
Two candidates have doctor of education degrees focused on higher education or administration -Savoie, educational leadership and administration, and Stanley, higher education management.
White's doctorate is in musical arts, violin performance. She's also the only candidate who is currently leading a campus - the University of South Florida's St. Petersburg campus with 5,000 students.
The public had a chance to express comments and concerns prior to the selection meeting via public hearings, voicemail and e-mail.
The business community wasn't absent from the second hearing.
Abraham and other leaders, including Lafayette Economic Development Authority President Gregg Gothreaux were among those who stepped up to add to the wish list of qualifications during the meetings.
Gothreaux said his only objection to the process, at first, was that it was open, but the opportunity to participate in the hearings converted his opinion.
"If it had to be an open process, I think the process has been fair. If it's out in the open, people don't have a right to complain," Gothreaux said.
He admitted that he has not had an opportunity to review the backgrounds of the five candidates, but expects that LEDA's executive committee will meet to do its research and prepare questions for the interviews.
The public will have the same chance when the interviews begin Nov. 12-13.
Clausen said the five candidates have the qualifications to face the public's questions that will come next month.
"We believe that we have some good candidates and we believe that they'll stand up to the scrutiny of public inquiry," Clausen said. "If we're wrong, that too will be revealed publicly."
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Here's the list of committee members:
Search committee chair
UL System President Sally Clausen, nonvoting member
Clausen has served as University of Louisiana System president since 2001. Her prior positions include, secretary of education, commissioner of higher education and president of Southeastern Louisiana University.
Voting members
Paul Aucoin: UL System board member since February 2007. He is an attorney who lives in Thibodaux.
Elsie Burkhalter: Vice chair of the UL System Board. Burkhalter is the current president of the St. Tammany Federation of Teachers and School Employees and served as a teacher for the St. Tammany Parish School System.
Jeffrey Jenkins: UL System Board member since 2005. He's an attorney employed by The Shaw Group, where he serves as vice president of special projects.
Renee Lapeyrolerie: UL Board member since February 2007. She is the public information officer for the Orleans Parish Criminal Sheriff's Office and press secretary to Criminal Sheriff Martin Gusman.
Jimmy Long Sr.: Chairman of the UL System board. Long is from Natchitoches and served eight terms in the Louisiana House of Representatives.
John Meriwether: UL faculty senate representative. Meriwether is a UL physics professor and is the executive officer of the faculty senate. He joined the UL faculty in 1966.
Wayne Parker: UL System board member. Parker is a resident of Ruston and a graduate of Louisiana Tech University.
Olinda Ricard: UL System student board member. She attends Nicholls State University in Thibodaux, where she serves as the SGA president.
Winfred Sibille: UL system board member. Sibille is serving his second term as a board member. He was initially appointed in 1995 and reappointed in 2007. Sibille, of Sunset, is a UL alumni.
Non-voting advisory members
Jim Prince: UL Foundation board trustee and retired Lafayette businessman. He had served as the chief financial officer of Stone Energy in Lafayette.
Candace Urbanowski: Urbanowski serves as UL's Student Government Association president.
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blah blah stop crying, no one is ever happy
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I want to thank The Daily Advertiser for the recent article on the UL president search.
This is the single most important decision to be made in Acadiana in many years. The University of Louisiana affects every aspect of our lives - educational, economic, political, intellectual and cultural.
UL has the single largest financial impact on our region of any entity - rapidly approaching $1 billion - and it is the most important tool we have for improving our quality of life. It should also be noted that UL is one of the two largest universities in the three-state region of Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas, and we are showing explosive growth in research, grants funding, donations, graduate programs, economic development and selective admissions.
The process, however, is at variance with searches held in every other state, and the low application numbers give one pause. A former president of a significant doctoral institution noted to the selection committee that when he was chosen to head that university, he was selected from a field of 450 applicants. That university is less than half UL's size, and yet we did not receive 10 percent of its applicant pool.
One small correction to the article: My comment was not that the applicants were not strong but that not all of them are strong. Fortunately, our two local products are strong candidates.
I hope that the UL system performs future presidential searches in a manner that conforms with the accepted practices across the nation.
Joseph Abraham Lafayette
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