Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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LouisianaB
It’s not outsourcing if you never even sourced it in the first place.
You can’t tell me what the fair charges (which would be revenue, not profit), so you can’t tell me what FMV is. Understood. To simply say “what the fair charges” ignores all expenses.
For the longest time this board has complained about the MG association screwing the university. The original thought was UL was getting paid 10-15k, which is true but ignores the 5 percent. I get curious, get the contracts, and throw out legit numbers. And all I hear is “we are getting screwed” (paraphrasing, probably). Yet nobody can tell me what they think FMV is.
You threw out legit numbers, and I used them.
Not sure why you are now requesting an audit.
ps New companies with few employees outsource all the time. I just think UL is underutilizing it's workforce.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
Okay, so again, no actual number. $35k is too low for y’all but y’all can’t tell me what it should be.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
You threw out legit numbers, and I used them.
Not sure why you are now requesting an audit.
ps New companies with few employees outsource all the time. I just think UL is underutilizing it's workforce.
It’s a university with an athletic department. Am I missing a festival department?
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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LouisianaB
It’s a university with an athletic department. Am I missing a festival department?
I'm not so sure you need a festival department to accomplish this but, perhaps Hospitality management can benefit from acting like they are one during that portion of the curriculum.
However, besides the athletic department parking needing the year-round practice, I have a Q, is Athletics getting the money for peripheral rentals? (I've already forgoten)
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
you showed revenues of the Mardi Gras Association, were there expenses listed as well? if UL is taking a percentage strictly off revenue (before expenses) then that 35,000 number may not look as bad as it does against a net number. (I may have just missed expenses and this post may not mean anything)
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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GeauxCajuns
you showed revenues of the Mardi Gras Association, were there expenses listed as well? if UL is taking a percentage strictly off revenue (before expenses) then that 35,000 number may not look as bad as it does against a net number. (I may have just missed expenses and this post may not mean anything)
The number is rent plus 5 percent revenue of parking and RV spots
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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Originally Posted by
LouisianaB
The number is rent plus 5 percent revenue of parking and RV spots
Minus several line items of operations expenses and deprecation and Maintenance. Not including benefits of advertisement and revenue produced after the fact.
We don’t have the requisite information at our disposal to nail down an exact number. But just using the numbers you provided, based on comparison (someone used Evangeline Downs property - which btw, really isn’t a comp property), the money does not make sense.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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LouisianaB
Okay, so again, no actual number. $35k is too low for y’all but y’all can’t tell me what it should be.
$35k per day.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
FMV is not really the point here. If you have a monopoly on something, you hold all of the cards. You set the price. There is no negotiation.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
Comparison: The City of Lafayette pays $500G a year just to control use of the Cajundome.
How many actual days they use it? I do not know.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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cajun4life
$35k per day.
Hahaha yea?
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Turbine
Comparison: The City of Lafayette pays $500G a year just to control use of the Cajundome.
How many actual days they use it? I do not know.
You do realize CD is a multimillion dollar, multipurpose venue with millions invested into making it a decent venue. And then theres a parking lot.
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ManAboutTown
FMV is not really the point here. If you have a monopoly on something, you hold all of the cards. You set the price. There is no negotiation.
I believe I posted earlier, market value is the maximum you can charge without Mardi Gras being moved or cancelled.
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LouisianaB
You do realize CD is a multimillion dollar, multipurpose venue with millions invested into making it a decent venue. And then theres a parking lot.
Pure profit
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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LouisianaB
Hahaha yea?
Go to another similar sized city and try to rent the same space and see what it cost.
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
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cajun4life
Go to another similar sized city and try to rent the same space and see what it cost.
Not $35k a day
Re: Mardi Gras at Cajun Field
"Worth" is what Mardi Gras Association charges.
Since they need to make money, half of what UL would max out at on a season of tailgating and RV slots. (if fully occupied) 5 days vs 5 days give or take.
Mardi Gras Association is making money off the deal, tailgaters are not.