Coach Desormeaux

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Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

How did this thread on Coach Dez shift to the AD?

Here is an interesting comparison of Year 1 & 2 (to date) for Napier and Dez:

Year 1

Napier was 7-5 regular season, then lost the conference championship to App State and beaten badly in a Bowl game to Tulane (41-24) and finished 7-7. Lost his first conference game to Coastal and lost to App State & Troy to finish 5-3 in conference, but did play for the conference championship.

Dez was 6-6 regular season, then lost the Bowl game to Houston (a game we could have won but for a fumble) and finished 6-7. Lost his first conference game to ULM and lost to USA, USM & Troy to finish 4-4 in conference and no conference championship game.

Difference in records of games won/loss by 10 points or less:
Napier won 3 and lost 3.
Dez won 1 and lost 3.

Napier Year 1 at Florida 6-7 and 3-5 in conference. Year 2 now at 1-1.

Year 2

Napier went 11-3, losing to App State twice, Troy & Miss State. Lost to App State in Conference Championship game and beat Miami Ohio in a Bowl game. Started year at 3-1 losing to Miss State.

Dez started year at 1-1, losing first conference game to ODU in a game we should have won (defense cost us that game). Now plays UAB (1-1 with a loss to GA Southern) and Buffalo (0-2 with a loss to an FCS school). Fix our defense and we can be 3-1 going to Minnesota.

Many are down on Dez right now, but the difference in the 1st year of both coaches comes down to 2 losses by 10 or less points. How will Dez define Year 2? Too early to tell and too early to judge him.

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Love the breakdown.

Gives me perspective.

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Originally Posted by Esqueleto

His body language has changed a lot since his first few years here. We have let him down, big time.

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The first I picked up on this was that interview with Prather when the decision to keep Marlin was made. The transition from Napier to Des was a mess, and then he had to go out there and deliver a decision he knew was only gonna ____ people off further. He sounded like a beat dog in that interview and honestly hasn’t had the same fire about him since then.

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Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

How did this thread on Coach Dez shift to the AD?

Here is an interesting comparison of Year 1 & 2 (to date) for Napier and Dez:

Year 1

Napier was 7-5 regular season, then lost the conference championship to App State and beaten badly in a Bowl game to Tulane (41-24) and finished 7-7. Lost his first conference game to Coastal and lost to App State & Troy to finish 5-3 in conference, but did play for the conference championship.

Dez was 6-6 regular season, then lost the Bowl game to Houston (a game we could have won but for a fumble) and finished 6-7. Lost his first conference game to ULM and lost to USA, USM & Troy to finish 4-4 in conference and no conference championship game.

Difference in records of games won/loss by 10 points or less:
Napier won 3 and lost 3.
Dez won 1 and lost 3.

Napier Year 1 at Florida 6-7 and 3-5 in conference. Year 2 now at 1-1.

Year 2

Napier went 11-3, losing to App State twice, Troy & Miss State. Lost to App State in Conference Championship game and beat Miami Ohio in a Bowl game. Started year at 3-1 losing to Miss State.

Dez started year at 1-1, losing first conference game to ODU in a game we should have won (defense cost us that game). Now plays UAB (1-1 with a loss to GA Southern) and Buffalo (0-2 with a loss to an FCS school). Fix our defense and we can be 3-1 going to Minnesota.

Many are down on Dez right now, but the difference in the 1st year of both coaches comes down to 2 losses by 10 or less points. How will Dez define Year 2? Too early to tell and too early to judge him.

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Program was in a better state for Des than it was for Napier. Either way. Hard to fairly compare. Numbers don't tell the whole story, but I get the sentiment. I think he figures it out. I don't expect it to be this year. Year 3 is the year we'll start to see if he's the one. I was pretty optimistic before the start of this season. There's still time for that to come to fruition.

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Originally Posted by ExecutiveCajun

and who are you sir? what is a big dog at the university and why are they passing this salacious information to someone outside the bubble? i can say from experience that rarely happens

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You don't have to like what I was told by a few different folks. It is what it is. You are crazy is you don't think folks from UL's upper tier leaks information. It happens all the time. RARELY can ANYONE keep ANYTHING confidential ANYMORE. Maggard is on cruise control pal regardless of what you or others think. For the record my bubble NEVER releases confidential information outside of our bubble. And no we aren't looking to add new members to the bubble.

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Originally Posted by zeppelincajun

The first I picked up on this was that interview with Prather when the decision to keep Marlin was made. The transition from Napier to Des was a mess, and then he had to go out there and deliver a decision he knew was only gonna ____ people off further. He sounded like a beat dog in that interview and honestly hasn’t had the same fire about him since then.

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Bingo!

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Originally Posted by jaxmc1023

How is this STILL not a thing?

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1 word....CONTROL

This deserved its own thread. For those that keep proclaiming Des was a budget hire.

Ga So Hired Clay Helton the same year as Des. He is in his 2nd season. According to an Advertiser article written Dec 7, 2021 Des will make 775k annually. Clay Helton former head coach in the pac 12 at USC, will make 700k his first year and then will increases to an 800k average throughout his contract, according to the link below.

Des’ contract is right in line with a fellow sunbelt member and one could argue a coach with a tad bit more experience.

To say Des was just a way to get off cheap is idiotic, because he is making what any first year coach would make at Louisiana and right at the average in new hires in the Belt.

https://www.wsav.com/sports/new-deta...tons-contract/


Now glad we put that one to bed.

Please stop with the facts, that is not what we do here.

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Originally Posted by Esqueleto

We have let him down, big time.

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That is complete bull____. The admin is the ones who have let the fans down. It’s their job to create excitement and they have failed at every level on this. Winning does not solve all problems, especially when you have large crowds show up and have a miserable experience. The fans/community are not the problem.

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Originally Posted by KajunKrazy

This deserved its own thread. For those that keep proclaiming Des was a budget hire.

Ga So Hired Clay Helton the same year as Des. He is in his 2nd season. According to an Advertiser article written Dec 7, 2021 Des will make 775k annually. Clay Helton former head coach in the pac 12 at USC, will make 700k his first year and then will increases to an 800k average throughout his contract. According to the link below.

Des’ contract is right in line with a fellow sunbelt member and one could argue a coach with a tad bit more experience.

To say Des was just a way to get off cheap is idiotic, because he is making what any first year coach would make at Louisiana and right at the average in new hires in the Belt.

https://www.wsav.com/sports/new-deta...tons-contract/


Now glad we put that one to bed.

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LoL! I don't think you understand what people meant by that

Now if you want to talk cheap.

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/sal...all/coach/3429

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Originally Posted by Clutch0364

That is complete bull____. The admin is the ones who have let the fans down. It’s their job to create excitement and they have failed at every level on this. Winning does not solve all problems, especially when you have large crowds show up and have a miserable experience. The fans/community are not the problem.

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Bingo

I disagree this city has never really supported this University. You might get a few for a game every now and then but overall the people of Lafayette could care less about athletics at UL. That is how I have seen it the past 45 years of living in this area.

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

Bingo!

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This does not imply that he's on cruise control or is being complacent as you suggest. If anything, he's being hamstrung and upset about the lack of support from administration and the fans.

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Originally Posted by CajunMarineBBK

I disagree this city has never really supported this University. You might get a few for a game every now and then but overall the people of Lafayette could care less about athletics at UL. That is how I have seen it the past 45 years of living in this area.

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And it has always been the admins fault.

The athletic department has never been marketed correctly. They expect people to just show up and that’s not how it works.

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Originally Posted by Esqueleto

This does not imply that he's on cruise control or is being complacent as you suggest. If anything, he's being hamstrung and upset about the lack of support from administration and the fans.

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Then why is he still here? Surely someone else would want to hire him?

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Originally Posted by Esqueleto

This does not imply that he's on cruise control or is being complacent as you suggest. If anything, he's being hamstrung and upset about the lack of support from administration and the fans.

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He wanted the Missouri job and thought he had it in the bag. They gave it to the lady and he’s been all boo-day ever since.

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

You don't have to like what I was told by a few different folks. It is what it is. You are crazy is you don't think folks from UL's upper tier leaks information. It happens all the time. RARELY can ANYONE keep ANYTHING confidential ANYMORE. Maggard is on cruise control pal regardless of what you or others think. For the record my bubble NEVER releases confidential information outside of our bubble. And no we aren't looking to add new members to the bubble.

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This guy here….

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

You don't have to like what I was told by a few different folks. It is what it is. You are crazy is you don't think folks from UL's upper tier leaks information. It happens all the time. RARELY can ANYONE keep ANYTHING confidential ANYMORE. Maggard is on cruise control pal regardless of what you or others think. For the record my bubble NEVER releases confidential information outside of our bubble. And no we aren't looking to add new members to the bubble.

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I prefer a maggard on cruise control than a maggard beholden to S-E-C masters trying to get a spot back with them

How is it the fault of the University when people who graduate from this University would rather go to Baton Rouge for any sport and not come here. And when questioned they bad mouth the school they have a degree from. I do not have a degree I am just a Cajun fan because they are the home team.

I would have thought Helton would make more. Although if he has capital gains from Los Angeles property by moving to Georgia he is a relative king.

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Originally Posted by KajunKrazy

Now if you want to talk cheap.

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/sal...all/coach/3429

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In other words we pay more for no experience than others in our peer group pay for experience. Makes you wonder.... could there be other supplemental monies from other sources?

. . . the market value for a hire like Des was what we had to spend . . . he is being paid about what he should command out in the market for a like position . . . it’s not cheap and not over paid . . . for Louisiana and for all the multiple reasons already posted time and time again by me and other supporters of Des, he was by far the best hire for Louisiana HFC last year . . . a search would have been foolish as it would not have revealed a different choice and thus time and unnecessary expense . . . it’s time to live with it and support the HFC for Louisiana . . .

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Originally Posted by RougaWhite&Blue

In other words we pay more for no experience than others in our peer group pay for experience. Makes you wonder.... could there be other supplemental monies from other sources?

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. . . he possesses many other intangibles for this job that other applicants just would not have . . .

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Originally Posted by CajunVic

. . . he possesses many other intangibles for this job that other applicants just would not have . . .

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I meant for the others listed