Conference realignment again????

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Yes, but are actually the best man for the job? Because within the boundaries of the State of Louisiana, Louisiana is the best program for the job.

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I think we are one top-notch stadium away from being able to say that is true. A few years from now is a different story.

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Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

I think we are one top-notch stadium away from being able to say that is true. A few years from now is a different story.

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So being Tulane has a nicer football stadium than Louisiana, that propels them as the better G5 Athletic Program?

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

So being Tulane has a nicer football stadium than Louisiana, that propels them as the better G5 Athletic Program?

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plus the $1.755Billion

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

I can’t argue with that. But it doesn’t mean we just fold like a cheap suit.

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No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. But this university doesn’t play the game the way the top G5 and P5 programs do. We do what we can to stay afloat and competitive.

We don’t do everything we can to succeed at the highest possible level. Martin Hall doesn’t even know how to do that. They are the people who are just happy to be invited to the ball.

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

So being Tulane has a nicer football stadium than Louisiana, that propels them as the better G5 Athletic Program?

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It's not about having a better G5 athletic program. It's about the perception of the future of that athletic program. When we get the stadium redone, our commitment is tangible. No powerpoint presentation needed.

Tulane has a nice stadium, but they don't have the success and commitment across the athletic program that we do.

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Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

It's not about having a better G5 athletic program. It's about the perception of the future of that athletic program. When we get the stadium redone, our commitment is tangible. No powerpoint presentation needed.

Tulane has a nice stadium, but they don't have the success and commitment across the athletic program that we do.

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Their athletic budget is currently around $50 Million these days, though.

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Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

It's not about having a better G5 athletic program. It's about the perception of the future of that athletic program. When we get the stadium redone, our commitment is tangible. No powerpoint presentation needed.

Tulane has a nice stadium, but they don't have the success and commitment across the athletic program that we do.

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Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

Their athletic budget is currently around $50 Million these days, though.

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Does that include the tuition costs of its scholarship athletes? That is where we lag behind on many budget comparisons. What does Tulane actually spend on its sports teams compared to what we spend on our sports teams?

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

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On the list of regional schools ahead of us for future P5 membership are Memphis, SMU and Tulane.

Our competition in LA has always been Tulane. The problem is that it is exponentially easier for a rich, Academic school like Tulane to field highest quality athletics than it is for a small public school like us to field highest quality athletics AND highest quality Academics.

See the problem?

I have always believed that hoping and praying for a P5 invite to save us is a complete waste of energy and time. If it ever happens, great, but we should be focused on our own business.

We should be focusing on building a P5 quality program, now. I don't give a rat's arse what conference we are in. Constant fundraising. Constant building. Constant upgrading of the schedule. Constant demanding of excellence in EVERY aspect.

The only thing stopping us from this vision is fear.

Is the ncaa the only sports governing body that allows the members to decide which conferences/divisions they play in? And if so why?

Don't think the cubs and cardinals would ever be able to conspire to leave the nl central to head back to the nl east.
Could usa mens soccer try to move out of concacaf?

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Originally Posted by Datt Meggs

Stop with the big12 nonsense

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If you ever hope to escape the non-cents. Deal in terms of non-sense.


Its the only sensical possiblility.

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

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You brought up Hot Rod Williams, the guy who single handedly closed the program down instead of acknowledging his gambling issues. Simply acted like lt never happened. That’s the Tulane I know.

Finally about the current Tulane football fortunes. It’s riding on one man that’s not young and has been very successful everywhere he’s been, SHSU, GS, and Tulane. Before this guy they wanted Hudspeth who brought good and bad.

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

Tulane has success in sports and is recommitted to doing so across the board, what they bring to the table is something we don't have and probably will never have and that is an alumni base with money willing to spend it.

What I found interesting was the sports that Tulane participates in. First lets look at the common and traditional sports.

Football---They are committed to being good right now, history for them is up and down, but right now they are as good as they have been in 40 years. They are ahead of us right now, but over the past 10 years I would say we have been better, but historically they probably have an edge.

Men's Basketball--They have a history back to the old Metro Conference days, they have not been very good lately, but their old history with guys like John "Hot Rod" Williams, Paul Thompson, Clyde Eads and Darryl Morreau days were very good, those teams were led by Ned Fowler and I know they got hit with penalties, but they were good teams. I think the programs are pretty even.

Baseball--Traditionally very good, not just good, really good. They have gone through a rough patch, but this is a historic baseball program. I think the programs are pretty even, granted we are on an upswing and they are on a downswing right now.

Men's and Women's Tennis have been traditionally very good, men especially. Consistently better than us.

Women's Basketball--Has a very good history, much better than ours.


There are a few other sports where we have like programs, like Track and Field, Cross Country and Women's Volleyball, but that is the extent of it. Where we differ from them is sports that they participate in that we don't and granted we have softball and they don't but check this out.

men's and women's and coed Sailing.
Beach Volleyball
Women's Golf
Women's Bowling
Swimming and Diving

By the way, they are very good at Sailing, Bowling and Beach Volleyball. They have clearly taken a different path in many of the "Olympic Sports" than we have.

Just recently a husband and wife gave 2.75 million dollars to Tulane to build, and get ready for this.....a new community Sailing Headquarters on Lake Pontchartrain. In all Libby and Robert Alexander have given now over 7 million dollars to Tulane Sailing program over the past 5 years.

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Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

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That is correct, but are we the bastion of NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament appearances. I get it, we have been to the tournament more times recently then they have, but man come on no one is going to look at our NCAA history vs Tulane's and say we are heads and shoulders above Tulane.

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

That is correct, but are we the bastion of NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament appearances. I get it, we have been to the tournament more times recently then they have, but man come on no one is going to look at our NCAA history vs Tulane's and say we are heads and shoulders above Tulane.

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I’m not sure how else one would compare mid-major programs. We’ve literally been to multiple NCAA/NIT to their zero. But ok.

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Originally Posted by Bankruptcyman

Does that include the tuition costs of its scholarship athletes? That is where we lag behind on many budget comparisons. What does Tulane actually spend on its sports teams compared to what we spend on our sports teams?

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And why is spending more rewarded regardless of wins and losses? Also every p5 budget amount includes monies that they get just from being in p5 conf that should also be removed for apples to apples comparison

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

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Originally Posted by CajunNation

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

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Yes, that was my point to BB. Had we been a consistent NCAA tournament team and/or a regular in the Sweet 16 that would be one thing. But I think if you reach out to anyone and ask who has a better basketball program UL or Tulane, the consensus would be there is not much difference. Only a handful of mid majors are worth it for most of the big conferences when it comes to basketball, those are teams like Gonzaga, Memphis, Cincinatti and the likes ETC. The difference to most people between Tulane and UL in basketball is minimal.

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Dave, Tulane hasn’t been to the Men’s NCAA since the Clinton administration!!!

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Neither has the mutts.

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Originally Posted by CajunNation

The only way your basketball program would factor into a possible P5 invite would be if you have Memphis or Cincinnati level basketball.

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Well they cheated too

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

You brought up Hot Rod Williams, the guy who single handedly closed the program down instead of acknowledging his gambling issues. Simply acted like lt never happened. That’s the Tulane I know.

Finally about the current Tulane football fortunes. It’s riding on one man that’s not young and has been very successful everywhere he’s been, SHSU, GS, and Tulane. Before this guy they wanted Hudspeth who brought good and bad.

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AND….athletes, especially football, are reaping benefits from Tulane’s “FEAR THE WAVE” NIL COLLECTIVE raising funds large and small from alumni and businesses.
Alumni are asked to contribute monthly whatever they can afford. Football is being emphasized because of their recent success.

Many universities have NIL Collectives. UL should have one in place soon….stay tuned.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

Their athletic budget is currently around $50 Million these days, though.

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Tuition boosts their total.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

Tuition boosts their total.

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I’d actually like to see a non-tuition breakdown of Sunbelt and other peer schools. Would definitely be interesting.

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Originally Posted by cwl1951

AND….athletes, especially football, are reaping benefits from Tulane’s “FEAR THE WAVE” NIL COLLECTIVE raising funds large and small from alumni and businesses.
Alumni are asked to contribute monthly whatever they can afford. Football is being emphasized because of their recent success.

Many universities have NIL Collectives. UL should have one in place soon….stay tuned.

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UL should have had a collective the minute nil became legal. But no we bust out ULtra to teach the students about the nil that we don’t have lol

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Exactly…I just don’t have hate for Southern Miss. Now, LaTech and Louisiana State, that’s a different story.

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easy to gin-up some hate, no doubt...


Football History Home
LSU vs Louisiana
Overall Record Against Louisiana : 22-0-0
Date Season Result Location Notes
Sep. 19 2009 W31-3 Baton Rouge
Sep. 2 2006 W45-3 Baton Rouge
Oct. 5 2002 W48-0 Baton Rouge
Nov. 19 1938 W32-0 Baton Rouge
Nov. 21 1936 W93-0 Baton Rouge
Nov. 23 1935 W56-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 4 1930 W85-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 5 1929 W58-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 6 1928 W46-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 1 1927 W52-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 2 1926 W34-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 3 1925 W38-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 4 1924 W31-7 Baton Rouge
Oct. 6 1923 W7-3 Baton Rouge
Oct. 4 1919 W39-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 6 1917 W20-6 Baton Rouge
Sep. 30 1916 W24-0 Lafayette
Sep. 27 1914 W54-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 11 1913 W26-0 Lafayette
Oct. 5 1912 W85-3 Baton Rouge
Oct. 7 1911 W42-0 Baton Rouge
Oct. 16 1902 W42-0 Lafayette

It looks like there was a touchdown in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe 2, if a pat was missed!!!!!!!

that needs a bumper sticker!