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Re: OT: Mississippi River Aquapocalypse 2019
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Duckster
The Corps announced likely to reopen the Bonnie Carrie next Tuesday.
I figured it would be next week some time.
On another note. With the rain we have been having in the Lafayette area the Vermilion River has risen substantially since yesterday. The water surface elevation at low tide yesterday was about 4.5 feet MSL and as of 7:00 A.M. today (Friday May 10) it is 8.73 MSL. Over a 4.0 foot increase in less than 24 hours.
https://waterdata.usgs.gov/la/nwis/uv?site_no=07386940
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Re: OT: Mississippi River Aquapocalypse 2019
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Originally Posted by
HelmutVII
I figured it would be next week some time.
On another note. With the rain we have been having in the Lafayette area the Vermilion River has risen substantially since yesterday. The water surface elevation at low tide yesterday was about 4.5 feet MSL and as of 7:00 A.M. today (Friday May 10) it is 8.73 MSL. Over a 4.0 foot increase in less than 24 hours.
https://waterdata.usgs.gov/la/nwis/uv?site_no=07386940
Just hope we don't see this again.....
https://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis...ate=2016-08-16
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Re: OT: Mississippi River Aquapocalypse 2019
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Cajun90
Yeah. When you are out of instrumentation range, you know you are f-ed.
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Yes that was bad. The water level at those dates got higher than the gage could measure.
FWIW the current level of the Vermilion river at 733 is 10.71 (at 10:00A.m.) a rise of 2 feet since this morning at 7:00. That is significant for sure. Thankfully, the rain has slacked off for a bit and it may allow for the rate of increase to slow.
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The Corps opened the Bonnet Carre this afternoon. River rising faster than expected. We all kinda knew that was coming.
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Originally Posted by
Duckster
The Corps opened the Bonnet Carre this afternoon. River rising faster than expected. We all kinda knew that was coming.
....Miss River rose half a foot in one day to open Bon Car Sp way!
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Maj. Gen. Richard "Rick" Kaiser, Commander, Mississippi Valley Division (US Army Corps of Engineers) and President of the Mississippi River Commission, briefed the public on the opening of the Bonnet Carre' Spillway.
"This is the wettest we've been in 124 years," said Maj. Kaiser.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...leans/70008245
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It would not surprise me if they open Morganza before this is all over.
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What are the reasons to open or why wouldn’t they open Morganza......what is it’s history of past openings?
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As was stated previously, The river has changed course many times in the past and it will change course again. It almost happened in 1973 (or was it 1974). Will we see it, maybe maybe not. When it happens it certainly will be a sight to see.
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Re: OT: Mississippi River Aquapocalypse 2019
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Originally Posted by
HelmutVII
As was stated previously, The river has changed course many times in the past and it will change course again. It almost happened in 1973 (or was it 1974). Will we see it, maybe maybe not. When it happens it certainly will be a sight to see.
Interesting to me, the Atchafalaya course (where the Miss WANTS to go) was the main channel 3000 years ago. The river really is like a hose, whipping around the flood plain....just in geologic time.
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salinity in Bay St Louis yesterday was .04 and that is before the new river water gets to it. At this point their is little hope for any shrimp season, oyster season or fishing season all so the Louisiana fisheries can be protected by not funneling water to the western side of the Mississippi river.
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billbeck451
salinity in Bay St Louis yesterday was .04 and that is before the new river water gets to it. At this point their is little hope for any shrimp season, oyster season or fishing season all so the Louisiana fisheries can be protected by not funneling water to the western side of the Mississippi river.
What is the western side of the Mississippi River?
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CharlieK
What is the western side of the Mississippi River?
Edgard , Lake Salvador.
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CharlieK
What is the western side of the Mississippi River?
As you are going down stream the western side of the Mississippi is to your right.
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Just crossed the Ohio @ Paducah, KY, earlier in day the Mississippi et Missouri Rivers at StL. My expert analysis....Lot of ____ing water up here
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Policarp
Just crossed the Ohio @ Paducah, KY, earlier in day the Mississippi et Missouri Rivers at StL. My expert analysis....Lot of ____ing water up here
Still a lot of snow to melt too.
Do you go by Policarp up there? Just wondering.
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Ignorant question. Lets say the Mississippi jumps the ORCS or at Widow Graham Bend. What does that look like? Not just for Atchfayla region, but down the current Mississippi flow
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HelmutVII
As you are going down stream the western side of the Mississippi is to your right.
So how do we send more water down one half of a river than we send down the other half? Seems like a good trick.
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LouisianaB
Ignorant question. Lets say the Mississippi jumps the ORCS or at Widow Graham Bend. What does that look like? Not just for Atchfayla region, but down the current Mississippi flow
Well on the Atchafayla side you are looking at flooding throughout the basin and siltation of the Atchafayla Bay.
For the current flow path you would be looking at it becoming an unnavigable waterway for many segments and salt water intrusion all the way up to Baton Rouge.
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Well on the Atchafayla side you are looking at flooding throughout the basin and siltation of the Atchafayla Bay.
For the current flow path you would be looking at it becoming an unnavigable waterway for many segments and salt water intrusion all the way up to Baton Rouge.
What he said AND you can pretty much kiss Morgan City good bye.
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CharlieK
So how do we send more water down one half of a river than we send down the other half? Seems like a good trick.
The Bonnet Carre Spillway discharges water from the EAST bank of the river through Lake Ponctchartrain to the EAST to Mississippi. Apparently the decision was made that was to place to construct the spillway to protect the grater New Orleans area flooding. From a land building standpoint I think the best place would have been on the west bank of the river just east of St. Charles and discharge to the gulf through Lake Salvador. That is a little bit further downstream from the current location of the Bonnet Carre.
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Re: OT: Mississippi River Aquapocalypse 2019
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Originally Posted by
HelmutVII
The Bonnet Carre Spillway discharges water from the EAST bank of the river through Lake Ponctchartrain to the EAST to Mississippi. Apparently the decision was made that was to place to construct the spillway to protect the grater New Orleans area flooding. From a land building standpoint I think the best place would have been on the west bank of the river just east of St. Charles and discharge to the gulf through Lake Salvador. That is a little bit further downstream from the current location of the Bonnet Carre.
Oh I get that. I was being a smartass. You can't send more water down one half of a river. You CAN discharge that water (at least in the case of the Mississippi) from various man made spots on both sides of the river into other river/bodies of water/drainage basins. I imagine he wants them to discharge into the Atchafalaya basin via morganza and old river sooner and at greater amounts versus via Bonnet Carre....at least that's what I'm guessing he meant. Does protection of one particular fishery over the other enter into the equation of when/where to discharge?