Did anyone see the story on KATC? They mentioned that Baldwin has now won three times in court against UL, which is half of the wins he accumulated as head coach of the football team in three seasons. I thought that was pretty darn funny.
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Did anyone see the story on KATC? They mentioned that Baldwin has now won three times in court against UL, which is half of the wins he accumulated as head coach of the football team in three seasons. I thought that was pretty darn funny.
Hey, I thinks its neat when even a McNeese fan can chip in and help the Cajuns involving a discussion to beat back that idiot Baldwin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris V.
Thanks... Cowboy!
Not to mention that the Trial Judge, who is black and an LSU law grad, threw the case out initially on a summary judgment (that ruling got reversed on appeal so it went back to the trial court for a trial).Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRed
Atta boy bummer! Way to show your true colors. This school has no sense of direction and enough of an image problem without clowns like you spouting off your stupidity on a daily basis. Some of you people just cannot help yourselves and get over your envy and hatred of that school to the east!!!! Just come out and say what you really want to say about baldwin. We all know what that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer
Who's we? you may have your own opinion, and if you do, please let us know what that is. I think he's a bad coach, who doesn't know how to take responsibility for his own actions. What do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by cayenethepepper
Dude you are an idiot. What Boomer is saying is that a white guy could not win a racial suit if he was fired. Baldwin was fired for losing period. I did play for Baldwin and he was a racist IMO and he played favorites as well. I chose to focus on track instead of football at that point. We as society would be better off if everyone would quit looking at color and blaming ones ethnic background for the reason one succeeds or fails. Baldwin FAILED period. I mean come on guy we were the only 1A school in America with two minority head coaches but we lose a racial lawsuit. We were also the first school in the country to offer black athletes scholarships. Get the ____ out of here you piece of ____.Quote:
Originally Posted by cayenethepepper
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Originally Posted by cajun4life
Pepperboy I is wanna be. Never went to refineryville but dislikes the cajuns and lives here. Serious Kool-aid drinker.
Call in show expert who knows squat.
Boomer may have misfired on the LSU connection... although, I am constantly reminded that LSU "owns" this state... is it time to tag them with complete responsibility... or just athletic national championships... hummm?
But, as for trying to call out Boomer as a racist... that's classless. Baldwin has made this a race thing... which it was not. Premise: He was hired with fairly clear indications that he was a black man. Conclusion: He was not fired therefore because he was a black man, nor denied equal opportunity to succeed due to race. I believe the university had as much to gain or lose from his success or lack thereof than Baldwin. They would not intentionally deny him. The UL administration should go on record showing how inept they are at anything in football management, and that would clearly demonstrate a lack of intelligence, not an intent to do harm. He and every coach in UL football history should be given a letter, not money, that apologizes for how poorly football has been managed by all former UL administrators.
I do believe the state is being represented poorly. I have no law credentials, but would have achieved getting this thrown out on its initial voyage and any and every appeal to follow. They could not throw a pitch at me on this deal that would not simply be the precursor to measuring for record bat/ball impacts. The UL legal team can easily prove that UL has never done right by football and therefore should not ever be held to any standard higher than Baldwin could achieve. They simply terminated him because they were as clueless as to what to do as Baldwin was as a football coach.
Baldwin has no right whatsoever in gaining financially from this pathetic affair. I would like to see a judgement that does not go in favor of Baldwin, but clearly goes on record stating that UL has never properly managed the football program. The state and the prior UL admin are only guilty of being poor sponsors of UL football... but not being racist.
I also think last year's 3-9 record is proof that it doesn't matter what the color of your skin is... the peak of success is currently .500 or thereabout and the norm is somewhere below that. We will achieve nothing more until the management does something... I mean everything... about it... unbridled private funding... with benefits.
*slow clap*
I regretfully agree with your post 100%. We as fans can only hope that a change in management will change our fate.
That "with benefits" part is what the NCAA is constantly trying to nail us with and is what Dr. A constantly fought against, although I think he took it WAY too far. What Doc T-Joe needs to do now is put together a committee to start a 100 million dollar sports foundation in exactly the same way Dr. A built up our 100+ million dollar academic foundation.
(Oh yeah, and let those guys do their JOB!!! .~..~..~.)
Man ---I guess the "Little knowledge of a subject is dangerous" applies to your assertion of my post---Just a reminder of how stupid this suit is and of what a joke for the same suit of racism to be filed at LSU in the Brady firing!!!! Take a chill pill and don't read into a post something that you have no idea of the reasons for its being posted!!!! After all the things in my life that I have endurded over my stance on the race issue --It is insinuated my being a racist---AAAH sorry pal!!!!
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On Wednesday, a judge denied UL's request for a new trial in its battle against discrimination claims made by former head football coach Jerry Baldwin.
The university is now calling upon the First Circuit Court of Appeals to decide on the matter. UL attorneys filed the appeal after 19th Judicial District Judge Don Johnson denied a motion for another trial Wednesday.
"We are pleased that we can now bring this to the Court of Appeals and right this wrong," said Larry Marino, one of the attorneys representing UL in the case. "UL's got a long and proud history of diversity, racial diversity, not least of which was hiring Coach Baldwin in the first place. After a 6-27 record, we let him go, and there was not a stitch of evidence that his race was a reason that he was fired and that will come out in appeal."
<center><p><a href="http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080710/NEWS01/807100325/1002" target="_blank">The rest of the story</a>
Marsha Sills • msills@theadvertiser.com • July 10, 2008
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In October, a 19th Judicial District Court jury voted 10-2 to award Baldwin $2 million based on claims in his lawsuit that included discrimination, emotional distress and breach of contract.
In April, Johnson defended jurors' decision after UL attorneys' argued that at least two jurors couldn't recall how they answered some of the questions that led to the $2 million verdict. Johnson also denied UL attorneys' argument that Baldwin's attorneys' fees were excessive, which at the time were in excess of $800,000.
Marino said counsel opted to exhaust its options before appealing to a higher court in order to correct "errors" made in the process.
"There are so many errors in this case that we believed that we have a chance to clear up some of these, if not all of them," Marino said. "So we have pursued this at all levels that we possibly could. This is the last of the mechanisms, or means available to us at the trial court level."
Baldwin's attorney, Karl Bernard could not be reached for comment late Wednesday afternoon.
Marino said the appeals process will reveal evidence of a "runaway jury."
"On appeal, it's going to come out very clearly that we had a confused, runaway jury," he said. "That there was an inappropriate member on that jury: a woman who had an unresolved claim of discrimination by her white supervisor and yet the judge let her stay on the jury."
Marino referred to more inconsistencies among jury members in the voting process - arguments that didn't gain ground with Johnson.
"They held that Coach Baldwin was not fired because of his race, but they also held that race was a determining factor in his firing. That's inconsistent," Marino said. "You also have them saying breach of contract, but in finding that, also finding there was an abuse of rights. ... How can you find an abuse of rights if there was a breach of contract?"
According to court records, jurors supported Baldwin's claims of breach of contract, but did not find that it was in bad faith. One of the conditions for the concept of abuse of rights is a good faith violation, according to instructions given to the jurors.
Jurors also found evidence of interference with Baldwin's contract by former Athletic Director Nelson Schexnayder, who was named in the suit.
Jurors did not find that there was an intentional infliction of emotional distress, however did vote that there was evidence of negligent infliction.
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