why not they have already killed all of the oysters in Mississippi, run off all of the fish, killed herds of dolphin and sea turtle, whats a little bit more fresh water dumped on Mississippi so that Louisiana can protect its fisheries.
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why not they have already killed all of the oysters in Mississippi, run off all of the fish, killed herds of dolphin and sea turtle, whats a little bit more fresh water dumped on Mississippi so that Louisiana can protect its fisheries.
They do have the Caernarvon and Davis Pond Diversions at about mile 84 of the Mississippi river but it flows less than 1000 cfs. A drop in the bucket. From what I understand, the oyster fishermen protested and they cut back on the flow. They could be building much more land than they are now but they have to "Study" it some more.
There is a connection to the river with an outfall just east of St. Charles that would provide plenty of fresh water and sediments to the area immediately south of New Orleans. Google Earth images show lots of sediment entering that area. I don't know what the name of that facility is. Maybe Mahtoo can shed some light.
Mississippi River flood barrier breaks in Davenport, Iowa.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/dav...ay-2019-04-30/
Mississippi river hits record high levels in Des Moines Iowa
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ne/1102855001/
.....will they open spillways again....are we in trouble yet???Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
Bonnet Carre probably Morganza maybe - maybe not. We will be in trouble if a levee breaks.
....Thanks again from the interested that haven’t got a clue!Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
I'm not familiar with facilities in the New Orleans area. Will ask around. You are correct with the drop in the bucket comment with regards to flood relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
Agree. If I were a betting man I would have wagered that Morganza Floodway would have been used again this year. As you say it still may be but it's too early to say for sure. Continued rains in the Midwest and upper Miss Valley along with the ice/snow melt to come are major concerns. Not looking good.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
In 2011, 17 of the 125 gates on the Morganza structure were opened. Don't remember how long they remained open. Water diverted into the Morganza floodway did not rise to the levels initially estimated, partly because of the drought conditions we were in at the time. We are certainly not in drought conditions today. Locally, the highest Atchafalaya stage at Butte LaRose in 2011 after the opening of Morganza was approximately 22.7...if my memory is correct. The reading at Butte LaRose this morning was 19.1. If Morganza is opened, I would expect river stages in the Atchafalaya to exceed those of 2011. Anyone with homes, camps, etc in the Butte LaRose area would have reason to be concerned.
People, businesses, etc with homes/properties in the floodways are sent letters annually informing them of the possibility that the floodways may be utilized. At least that was the case in years past. I would be surprised if that practice has changed.
Above comments are my opinions. I don't speak for the Corps or anyone else.
And with regards to being in trouble if a levee breaks, the loss of life and property damage would be unimaginable, depending of course on the location of the break and when a break may occur.
Davenport, IA Levee Failure
https://youtu.be/6nFEdNmn5kI
I guess if we had to pick a spot for the levee to fail it would be on the West bank just east of St. charles across from St. Rose Not too many people there and a direct shot to the Gulf through lake Salvador and Little Lake. Oyster fisher men wouldn't be happy though it would build some land.Quote:
Originally Posted by mahtoo
Mississippi river going up and predicted to go higher upstream and downstream of the ORCS.
At Vicksburg
https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydr...jan&gage=vckm6
At red river landing
https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydr...lix&gage=rrll1
Is Angola in danger?Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
If the levee breaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
The question is asked is this area or that area in danger. If you live inside the Achafalaya flood way (between the east and west levees) AND they open Morganza then you are not safe. If you didn't get the annual spring letter from the Corps of Engineers saying that they may have to open the spillway then you are OK. If you live adjacent to the Achafalya levees or the Mississippi River levees then you may be in danger if the levee breaks. The entire length of the levee won't break, it will break at isolated locations. If you live near a levee and you walk to the top and the water is within five feet of elevation of the top of the levee It's time to be concerned. Every place in Missouri and Iowa that had problems was a result of a levee breaking or a failure of a dam or a breach of a dam. If there is any possibility of that here in Louisiana, you will hear about it unless you live under a rock.
Now, with the rains we are expecting this week. All bets are off. If you live in an area subject to flooding or you had problems in August of 2016 then I would keep my eye on the weather for the next few days. If a storm cell decides to stay in the area we could be in for some problems.
**this is opinion. By reading this, you agree release, indemnify and hold harmless HelmetIV for any damages you sustain***Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
I enjoy this thread, btw. Very insightful from someone who is ignorant to all of this.
You must be a lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisianaB
Just looking out for yaQuote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
After being in the practice of Engineering for 43 years I am used to giving a professional opinion. I do it all the time. If somebody asked if they are in danger I would say it depends on what you are doing. If a pedestrian is crossing a busy street I would say they are in danger. However, if they do it carefully and understand the potential for harm then they have a reasonable expectation of crossing the street safely. Not a guarantee. Anything can happen at any time. ie the pedestrian could have a heart attack while crossing the street.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisianaB
If somebody asks, am I in danger of flooding?. I would answer, it depends on where you are (see my above post). If you live next to a levee and the water is close to the top. Yeah, you might be in danger. Especially if the levee breaks. Might be wise to get your affairs in order. If a bunch of guys in pick up trucks and flashing lights show up and they are walking around with hard hats and safety vests. You might want to think about getting out. Just sayin. Best thing to do is to keep abreast of the situation and be prepared for anything.
I can tell your qualified. My comment was mainly a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelmutVII
So what was the other part?Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisianaB
In this thread the other part is "Just add water."Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
I understand it was a joke. But others may not take it that way. Just wanted to reinforce the notion that when it comes to flooding it's probably best to keep an eye on things so you can make an informed decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisianaB
The Corps announced likely to reopen the Bonnie Carrie next Tuesday.