Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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CajunJeaux
Last I recall they had around 853 fans per game their last year in the dome...
That's fair, but with all due respect, you asked about the "Cajundome's potential"
It has been proven that with the right product and right product marketing, it's potential can be utilized.
We have the info on where the IceGators went wrong, but we also know it can be done. They changed ownership, endured scandal, changed leagues and quit marketing to save money.
Still with their sustained 4-year spurt we know the Cajundome's potential can be reached.
I'd still like a smaller venue though, just answering your question. :)
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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ZoomZoom
Because a FEMA floodway runs thru the middle of it with the adjoining flood zone. The floodway is basically dead land, can't build squat.
I'm not a tree hugger, but after all the shouting was over after the transaction, the university unloaded something that could never be fully developed and would have required perpetual maintenance. A good move from a fiscal point.
All you have to do is look at the residential areas across Johnston that straddle the "FEMA floodway" as well as the residential areas on the back end of the 100 acres where Coulee Mine dumps into the river to recognize that 80% of that land can be utilized.
The debatable portion is perfect for federal education grants to study flood zones. Including but not limited to being the perfect location for the Ira Nelson Horticulture Center, which would have freed up Johnston Street land for the Main Campus.
Point being, don't let the current needs dictate and lock you in for the long term.
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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Turbine
I don't know what the Houston Dynamo call their color but that color in the picture is, Vermilion Red.
Ok I checked, "officially" their color is orange, and their paraphernalia is very orange.
The stadium hue in those pictures is very Vermilion Red.
Re: Could the Ragin’ Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
Why are some of you getting mad about your new Cajun Field ideas... as if this forum votes and decides what's built? Personally, I think we're drifting away from the Master Plan renderings. So there's a good chance some new design ideas (phases) are being studied. If there are solid arguments for a grassroots development over the modernizing phases of Cajun Field, it is on the table. If it isn't on the table, it's because your cost analysis (everything considered) falls short.
But getting upset with your fellow RPer is kind of silly. Whatever we build, unlike private groups that can go bankrupt and run away from their debt, we have to pay for it, and we have to make it last for 30 to 50 years. Personally, the only way I see a brand new grassroots football stadium is if there's a big private use that will partner and help pay for it.
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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HOUCajun
Dynamo stadium is definitely orange. TX Southern also plays there and I believe hey are orange also
http://www.isiahfactor.com/wp-conten...ance.jpeg.jpeg
Do the pictures posted earlier match real life, or was photoshop affecting the hue?
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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Ragin9221
I agree. A good design will mesh well with it's surroundings.
With that said, I can see a few problems with this IMO. Bricks cost money. Fancy columns and ornate designs cost money. I feel like we'd shoot for your picture but end up with something like this which is just... meh:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Box_Tower.jpg
Second, the architecture of the athletic complex has never fit into that "old traditional college" mold like the main campus. Every building is modern but with brick accents. And because it is part of the stadium, the design will have to mesh more with the South end zone than Martin Hall.
You can do modern designs in a way that still mesh well with historic buildings. Chelsea FC in London are about to build this. It is ultra-modern but it still fits with the look and scale of the neighborhood around it.
https://static.designboom.com/wp-con...ignboom-07.jpg
https://static.designboom.com/wp-con...ignboom-10.jpg
https://static.designboom.com/wp-con...ignboom-03.jpg
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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CajunJeaux
Last I recall they had around 853 fans per game their last year in the dome...
Being a big hockey fan from 1995-2006 I witnessed those sell outs. Around 9000 season ticket holders and the rest standing in line to get in. What was said earlier about Product/Product/Marketing was correct. They had that and more for the first 4 years but let it slip. Forgot about the husband, wife and a couple of kid attending for $20. I guest they saw a good thing and raised the price of a ticket from $5 in the upper decks to $8 and lost that family. The downfall began. Plus corruption on the part of the owners. After the fans left it was down hill from there. So do it right and price it right with the fan in mind and a product on the field. With a 35K seat stadium you might be scratching your head saying, "what was I thinking in not building for the future".
Re: Could the Ragin’ Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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CajunRebel
A good design will mesh well with it's surroundings.
When Farmer was released the Master Plan a few years ago, the new Cajun Field Tower look very similar to this one at Troy. ...where Scott Farmer help build. Not saying you want this, but I'm glad Farmer isn't involved anymore to build the same Tower at Cajun Field like he did at Troy.
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Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
The University of Akron and Wake Forest got it right and we should follow suit. Both facilities seat just over 30K and they produce a great game day experience. Both venues have built a seven story tower. Just what we need to block the sun. We can even add canopies on the top level for extra sun protection during the season.
Akron:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg8DVrqfAkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEnJfNPkJBY
Wake Forest:
http://www.ljvm.com/our-venues/deaco...-at-bbt-field/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YTqD9VOVD8
Their tower offers a year round restaurant, and rental space for conferences, weddings and parties. That's how you make the most of your money and space.....not but adding seats in the end zones. Notice both schools have put minimal effort into their end zones.
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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Geaux
Finish bowling the stadium in the NEZ to mirror the SEZ with similar concessions built on the East side and eliminate the unfinished look, tear down the upper deck and build the tower in its place with press box, suites, and all the amenities needed. That should leave us with around 35,000 seats, would allow for future expansion with an upper deck on the East side, and give our stadium a finished, big-time look that we need to compliment our other facilities. And, after tearing down the Cox building, build the Square that was initially proposed. We will have one of the finest athletic complexes in the G5 and better than some P5 schools with perhaps the least expensive approach.
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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HoustonCajun
Finish bowling the stadium in the NEZ to mirror the SEZ with similar concessions built on the East side and eliminate the unfinished look, tear down the upper deck and build the tower in its place with press box, suites, and all the amenities needed. That should leave us with around 35,000 seats, would allow for future expansion with an upper deck on the East side, and give our stadium a finished, big-time look that we need to compliment our other facilities. And, after tearing down the Cox building, build the Square that was initially proposed. We will have one of the finest athletic complexes in the G5 and better than some P5 schools with perhaps the least expensive approach.
If you change the west side to current codes with the tower, could you leave the east side "as is"?
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We won't need the upper deck on the visitor side, but it's an idea if we would ever need to add on, and personally I would bowl it in before I would add a top deck to the visitor side. This thing would look nice at Cajun Field!!
https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/...7-727x485.jpeg
http://snagfilms-a.akamaihd.net/33/3...yrd-stadiumjpg
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I like the look of Maryland's stadium. Brings fans closer to the field.
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If we ever needed to expand here is what it would look like. The upper deck on the visitor side wouldn't have to be that big if we did the NEZ project. This stadium holds 54,000, chances are we wouldn’t need that, but the option to build is there if we needed to expand.
http://www.umterps.com/pics33/1024/Y...0614200050.jpg
Re: Could the Ragin’ Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
Bowling in the end zone was a waste of money. I don’t want to double down on bowling in the other side for probably 10m with no financial return. Looking finished to me is secondary to having more seating between the 20s that can generate revenue. Putting that money to better use seems smart considering our financial situation.
Question, if the stadium got condemned as some have suggested would there be some type Of insurance payout that would give us the seed money to build an all new facility?
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I don't know who did this renovated Cajun Field? Add this with the Maryland tower with premium seating, suites, restaurants, stores, press box etc. is the route we need to take. We could add the top section of the visitor side before we added to the NEZ.
https://forumeus.com/...1&d=1249914976
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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SMD7636
I like this idea from an economic perspective of bringing fans closer to the field by bowling the stadium with a multi use tower like Troy on the home side.
Assuming the building code Gods approve, this is my choice as well. Do the NEZ. Tear down upper deck. Build a multi-use tower like the above pics. Years down the road, if the train is still rolling, a smallish upper deck could easily be added to the visitor side.
Re: Could the Ragin' Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
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MetryCajun
It's like talking to a brick wall. You are 100% correct, the SEZ was a huge waste of money and now people want to add seats to another area no one wants to sit in. Suites and seats between to 20's generate revenue. I really don't care how it is done, just make it the main focus.
Re: Could the Ragin’ Cajuns be getting a new football stadium?
A home field building/deck with an exterior designed similar to the "Tigue" to give some symmetry to the look of the athletic complex.
