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The strange thing is, for all the media now why is it so hard to see a better shot of these controversial plays...... Why do i think if it was a home team game winning homer we would have clear views of everything....... Oh well "praise tebow" ncaa dodged a huge bullet, omaha is not cancelled!
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2016/6...t-fsu-baseball
With an attitude like this,too bad it didnt cost him. Im sure most will disagree but i think this is worse than what miami "kid" did, this is supposed to be a paid professional while the other is a kid and a student first.
Again, I thought you Cajuns were experts in baseball.
If an umpire signals before the play is complete then he did his job incorrectly.
From the MLB rules book:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y20...ball_rules.pdf
Under "GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS TO UMPIRES" on Page 97
"Do not come running with your arm up or down, denoting “out” or
“safe.” Wait until the play is completed before making any arm motion."
I agree the ump didn't do his job correctly, but it was not for the reason you site.
in his mind he did do it correctly to adhere to his marching orders to always protect the flagship
You can ignore him if you like. You can also ignore my post stating the same thing. DJDAWG is absolutely correct. No safe sign should have been given.
(and for those of you who want to say, yeah, but what about.....the safe call on the dropped third strike is the same as the safe call on a trapped ball. It means there was no catch.)
did the coastal Carolina coach discuss or appeal or argue the play with the umpires? I couldn't find any mention or quotes in articles.
also given that the requirements for tagging a base are quite different than for tagging a runner or even for making a catch, does anyone else think the fielder simply made the out in the first place?
granted I wish I could find a video link that is longer, begins earlier (runner also seems to have been out of runner's lane) and stays with the play longer hopefully until time is called.
Most safe & out calls are judgment calls by the umpire and most of them are fairly simple and clear cut to everyone. However, the very close bang, bang calls are sometimes debatable and occasionally missed.
In this case being discussed, the collision at first base added an additional element to the call that may have briefly blocked or distorted the umpires view of the play. I can't speak for the umpire in this situation, but I can only assume he thought the runner had touched the base since he ruled him safe. As was shown on the replay, the runner appears to have possibly missed the base. However, if the umpire thought he saw the runner touch the base and judged him to be safe, that is the end of the story and the runner is safe.
How many times do we see coaches come out to "discuss" safe/out calls at first base? When was the last time anyone saw the call (even if wrong) reversed after the "discussion? It doesn't happen. Sometimes umpires miss calls and make mistakes. In some cases the call can be reversed and in some cases it can't. In this case, once the safe call was made, that was the end of it.
It is easy to see some errors with the benefit of instant replay and the use of slow motion. However, the umpire doesn't have the benefit of that technology and has to make the call as he sees it right then and there. Some plays are not as easy to call on the field as it is from our living room recliners.
Just seems most of the mistakes favor P5 teams in all sports. Strange?
agreed, but a. I also asked about the fielder and b. simply asked if the coach came out, I didn't see game and this entire event seems to be have stricken from most media accounts of the game. wasn't trying to say he should or shouldn't come out to "discuss" I was simply just curious if he did.
Dude, it's always the same side that gets hosed face the bias.