The Jerry Baldwin Saga: 1998-2020

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Originally Posted by zephyr

_ What has Lee's "path" done to lower the APR or endanger it in any way? What path are you referring to? Just curious. _

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Maybe the reason you’re not more ____ed is because you don't understand what really happened? Lee got rid of half of the team after his second year, leading UL down the PATH of APR sanctions. My question is; did he do this knowingly and did Walker influence his decision? I have many more questions but I'll start there.

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ KACajun, in the time I've been here I've shown that I'm willing to ask tough questions and demand answers.

Look at Robe and baseball last spring.

Look at Bustle back in the fall.

Look at Lee during the open-door/closed-door practices and player issues this basketball season.

Just because I haven't touched on some of your questions yet doesn't mean I don't plan to. I think some of you forget that I'm also trying to cover baseball and other UL sports, too. There are only so many hours in a day. David Walker has been unavailable for comment for the past few days after this decision was made on Friday. He was out of the office before 3 p.m. Friday. Tough to do much else when he's gone home for the weekend.

This week offers a great chance for me to ask some of those tough questions. There are some questions I will ask until the answers are provided.

And cm'on, CajunBoudin. No need to call people cats in this thread. _

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You have written great stories about UL and you are correct about asking the tough questions, but today IMO you are completely off the mark. How can you come to the conclusion of "despite fans' frustrations, UL did the right thing"? You said yourself you haven't even asked the man in charge of this fiasco a single question about what happened. IMO this is lazy reporting, you are entitled to your own opinion and you have the platform to share that opinion with the masses, from here on out I will dismiss your opinion as unsubstantiated. Also, I have zero problems telling you all of this in person; I’m not hiding behind ____!!!!

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Originally Posted by KACajun

_ You have written great stories about UL and you are correct about asking the tough questions, but today IMO you are completely off the mark. How can you come to the conclusion of "despite fans' frustrations, UL did the right thing"? You said yourself you haven't even asked the man in charge of this fiasco a single question about what happened. IMO this is lazy reporting, you are entitled to your own opinion and you have the platform to share that opinion with the masses, from here on out I will dismiss your opinion as unsubstantiated. Also, I have zero problems telling you all of this in person; I’m not hiding behind ____!!!! _

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Not fair

The university will see how the fans feel next year when the attendance is the worse than last year. We as fans have a voice. If the university saved money by keeping Lee they will lose money on attendance. Only the free UL student ID's will be there and not eating or drinking a thing.

We just added another 2-3 years on top of the damage to rebuild our basketball image!

This will never be a basketball town. You can fit 10,000 in that Cajundome if you really wanted to.

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ That will be the first question I ask this week. And if I am continually stonewalled by the adminstration concerning those questions, I will make that known.

Again, and this is not directed at you CajunFreak, just because my opinion sided with the administration this time doesn't mean that will always be the case. My opinion happens to match their actions. Those who think otherwise know nothing about me or how to do my job. _

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Thanks Josh!

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Originally Posted by KACajun

_ You have written great stories about UL and you are correct about asking the tough questions, but today IMO you are completely off the mark. How can you come to the conclusion of "despite fans' frustrations, UL did the right thing"? You said yourself you haven't even asked the man in charge of this fiasco a single question about what happened. IMO this is lazy reporting, you are entitled to your own opinion and you have the platform to share that opinion with the masses, from here on out I will dismiss your opinion as unsubstantiated. Also, I have zero problems telling you all of this in person; I’m not hiding behind ____!!!! _

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Maybe the reason we don't have "people on our side" (the fans side) is because we jump their a s s everytime they are 1 second late on things we "demand, and now!".
Josh has been the best we've had in a while, so lets be fair and give the man due time. The article head line is a bit frustrating, but most things are right now concerning this complete failure of a decision.

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Originally Posted by KACajun

How can you come to the conclusion of "despite fans' frustrations, UL did the right thing"? You said yourself you haven't even asked the man in charge of this fiasco a single question about what happened. IMO this is lazy reporting, you are entitled to your own opinion and you have the platform to share that opinion with the masses, from here on out I will dismiss your opinion as unsubstantiated. Also, I have zero problems telling you all of this in person; I’m not hiding behind ____!!!!

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I didn't write "despite fan's frustrations, UL did the right thing." That's a headline written by someone else, so get that fact straight first before incorrectly stating what I did or didn't say.

While I have yet to speak with David Walker since I learned of the news, it's not because I just sat in the office doing nothing on Friday. I broke the news three hours before anyone else had it. After I got word of it, I was unable to get DW on the phone and he was not in the office.

What do you want me to do, make up quotes? Write what I think he would say? That is "lazy reporting." In fact, I tracked down both Lee and Rogers that same day for reaction.

And as for "unsubstantiated" opinions, the feeling is mutual.

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ I didn't write "despite fan's frustrations, UL did the right thing." That's a headline written by someone else, so get that fact straight first before incorrectly stating what I did or didn't say.

While I have yet to speak with David Walker since I learned of the news, it's not because I just sat in the office doing nothing on Friday. I broke the news three hours before anyone else had it. After I got word of it, I was unable to get DW on the phone and he was not in the office.

What do you want me to do, make up quotes? Write what I think he would say? That is "lazy reporting." In fact, I tracked down both Lee and Rogers that same day for reaction.

And as for "unsubstantiated" opinions, the feeling is mutual. _

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I would have held the Op-Ed until after I talked to Walker, maybe your OPINION will be deferent after that interview...

I got no problem with Parrott or his articles - accurate, factual, informative, good reading, etc. What i wonder is why do we make a decision based on APR and post season play when we ain't exactly tearing up the post-season scene anyway?

Screw it! Fire 'em if they don't win and move on! So what if we can't go to a bowl? We haven't actually been invited in a while anyway.

It seems like we want to play the same old bad hand all night... in the words of an exceptionally unnatractive and probably obscure fitness guru of days gone by - STOP THE INSANITY! Shuffle, re-deal, and start the heck over.

Simple test to keep your job, Coach... WIN here or go somewhere else and try to win (if anyone will have you). As for the U, we'll hire somebody else, give him a shot and if he wins, we'll keep him (or watch him go somewhere else) or cut him loose if he doesn't.

Simple accountability. Nothing personal. Results talk, BS walks.

I've said my peice and counted to three.

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Originally Posted by KACajun

I would have held the Op-Ed until after I talked to Walker, maybe your OPINION will be deferent after that interview...

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I wrote about my opinion based on the facts available. And I'll likely write another column after talking with DW sometime this week.

Don't expect this story to disappear from our newspaper anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ I wrote about my opinion based on the facts available. And I'll likely write another column after talking with DW sometime this week.

Don't expect this story to disappear from our newspaper anytime soon. _

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Good point from fans here about where the freakin' AD is (:hot:) and thanks for following up on it.

I just want to say I hate every ____ing person on this board. Stop crying, so what, we all hate all of you.

Ok, I'm going to bed

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Originally Posted by KACajun

_ I would have held the Op-Ed until after I talked to Walker, maybe your OPINION will be deferent after that interview... _

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Because if he didn't write the article, people would be ______ing and complaining about nothing being said about the situation!

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ I wrote about my opinion based on the facts available. And I'll likely write another column after talking with DW sometime this week.

Don't expect this story to disappear from our newspaper anytime soon. _

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Thats all I'm asking for Josh, thanks for following up.

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Originally Posted by Rebel02

_ Because if he didn't write the article, people would be ______ing and complaining about nothing being said about the situation! _

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Write the article but include that DW wasn't talked to.

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Originally Posted by ULBaby!

_ I got no problem with Parrott or his articles - accurate, factual, informative, good reading, etc. What i wonder is why do we make a decision based on APR and post season play when we ain't exactly tearing up the post-season scene anyway?

Screw it! Fire 'em if they don't win and move on! So what if we can't go to a bowl? We haven't actually been invited in a while anyway.

It seems like we want to play the same old bad hand all night... in the words of an exceptionally unnatractive and probably obscure fitness guru of days gone by - STOP THE INSANITY! Shuffle, re-deal, and start the heck over.

Simple test to keep your job, Coach... WIN here or go somewhere else and try to win (if anyone will have you). As for the U, we'll hire somebody else, give him a shot and if he wins, we'll keep him (or watch him go somewhere else) or cut him loose if he doesn't.

Simple accountability. Nothing personal. Results talk, BS walks.

I've said my peice and counted to three. _

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The ban on post season play would be for all sports, not just football and basketball. Baseball and softball could not compete in regionals. That would not be fair to those athletes. Now having said that, I will agree that we don't really know if players would have transferred had a change been made. Usually, few do after the new coach meets with them. However, I was not in the interview room and those who were concluded that it was too big a risk to take.

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Originally Posted by KACajun

_ Write the article but include that DW wasn't talked to. _

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Ok man, we get it. Parrott has answered every one of your questions. Please stop nitpicking. Josh will probably do his best to show every side of the situation, especially once DW finds some courage.

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Originally Posted by KACajun

_ You have written great stories about UL and you are correct about asking the tough questions, but today IMO you are completely off the mark. How can you come to the conclusion of "despite fans' frustrations, UL did the right thing"? You said yourself you haven't even asked the man in charge of this fiasco a single question about what happened. IMO this is lazy reporting, you are entitled to your own opinion and you have the platform to share that opinion with the masses, from here on out I will dismiss your opinion as unsubstantiated. Also, I have zero problems telling you all of this in person; I’m not hiding behind ____!!!! _

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Dude you are really looking like an ASS right now. Parrot has not asked D. Walker the questions, because D. Walker is hiding somewhere and refusing to be interviewed, questioned, etc. Don't attack Parrot because the UL AD is to chicken ____ to stand up for his decision.

GEAUX UL!

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Originally Posted by wcd35

"...Please stop nitpicking...." _

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I'm no expert on Cajun basketball, the Cajun administration, the APR, or reporting the news and with all due respect to all of the players in this issue, but expecting fact finding in the form of personal discussions with the guy making the decision before supporting his decision does not appear to be "nitpicking". imo

Hopefully, Coach Lee and his team will respond to the opportunity presented to them and you guys will be dancing next year.

Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by 4LSU

_ I'm no expert on Cajun basketball, the Cajun administration, the APR, or reporting the news and with all due respect to all of the players in this issue, but expecting fact finding in the form of personal discussions with the guy making the decision before supporting his decision does not appear to be "nitpicking". imo

Hopefully, Coach Lee and his team will respond to the opportunity presented to them and you guys will be dancing next year.

Best of luck. _

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I just find that with Josh being on this board and answering all of the questions posed, some would have a little patience with regards to getting answers. Its a known fact that Walker hasn't spoken since the press release. It just seems like there has been a barrage of repetition to some extent on the subject. Just me, but Parrott has been pretty forthcoming on the issues

Not that I'm taking up for DW (I signed the petition), but have you ever heard of an AD calling a press conference to announce they are keeping a coach who was already under contract? Nope. So maybe the correct choice was made as Josh suggests. The fact that it came to that choice is where the more serious problem lies.


igeaux.mobi

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Originally Posted by Parrott

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What do you want me to do, make up quotes? Write what I think he would say?
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No offense Josh, but there is no way you could make up story lines that would be more 'entertaining' (frustrating/disappointing) than the clown factory that is UL athletics.

The term 'mind boggling' comes into focus while trying to determine how UL still has any fan support considering the administering of the athletic department over its history.

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Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

_ Not that I'm taking up for DW (I signed the petition), but have you ever heard of an AD calling a press conference to announce they are keeping a coach who was already under contract? Nope. So maybe the correct choice was made as Josh suggests. The fact that it came to that choice is where the more serious problem lies.


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True, but I think there were extenuating circumstances in this instance that warranted a press conference. He knew the kind of commotion that this would cause and that we would want answers.

sorry, but people complaining on a message board does not mean you should hold a press conference

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Originally Posted by wcd35

True, but I think there were extenuating circumstances in this instance that warranted a press conference. He knew the kind of commotion that this would cause and that we would want answers.

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igeaux.mobi

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Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

_ sorry, but people complaining on a message board does not mean you should hold a press conference
igeaux.mobi _

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Well, its not like everyone is satisfied with this call: message board, sports talk shows, etc. This is where a good bit of fans come to talk sports, others listen to 1420, others read the paper and some do all. There is a gross majority of people that would like to hear from the AD.

Do you think that the people expressing opinions here are in the minority with wanting answers? It seems like the people who pay for the tickets, merch, etc are for the most part left wanting more.

Again, the main point I was making was that this is not just keeping coaches. This is keeping them at a point where they are both failing on the court badly. Its not just a regular offseason decision.