Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
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Originally Posted by
CajunRage
You can _____. You can try to reason. You can try it all. But ultimately, you need to look at your potential client base and determine what it will take to get them inside the stadium. Continuing to do the same and expect them to change their minds is just bad business. Does it seem wrong to give free parking and tailgating for example? Sure it does. But where does opportunity cost come in? If you increase attendance to Hud era, you replace ALL revenue from TG and RV spots several times over with ticket sales. You also have 10k+ more customers to market to for small RCAF donations and more premium seats. This in addition to fixing the gameday management inside the stadium is how you build an atmosphere. When you are selling out the stadium and still have demand, that's when you start nickel and diming. Not when you have 20k open seats every weekend.
heading in the right direction here
Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
Rage has said the same thing over, over and over again. Finally someone is willing to listen . . . maybe it’s a start
Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
Simple economics. The demand is not very high for Cajuns football compared to other football experiences in the State. What can we offer that LSU can’t? Affordability. Free parking is a great start. Lower prices and get people in the gate. Then sell sell sell and gradually increase that demand, then start raising prices.
Great example: why buy reserved seats when I can buy GA and still sit wherever I want? The economics are broken.
We need a billboard ad:
“Cheapest ticket in the State”
Re: Casual fans realistic expectations?
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Originally Posted by
KajunKrazy
Yes. But in my opinion always have to keep parking inside the gates as an incentive to join the RCAF. You start letting non RCAF park in the gates you will probably to lose some RCAF members.
I agree with your statement. I can tell you that RCAF lost money from me when they asked me to pay an extra $60 for a parking pass knowing the parking lot was already not full. My donation went down 90%.
In my opinion, that is just being greedy. Its ECON101. The demand was not greater than the supply. I would have no problem paying the extra $60 if the parking lot was full. Until then, I will walk a little further.
Re: Casual fans realistic expectations?
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Originally Posted by
RaisingCajun08
I agree with your statement. I can tell you that RCAF lost money from me when they asked me to pay an extra $60 for a parking pass knowing the parking lot was already not full. My donation went down 90%.
In my opinion, that is just being greedy. Its ECON101. The demand was not greater than the supply. I would have no problem paying the extra $60 if the parking lot was full. Until then, I will walk a little further.
Same with seating. People are buying GA knowing they can still most likely sit wherever they want. People have less reason to pay extra for a “reserved seat” since they’re empty anyhow.
Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
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Originally Posted by
CajunRage
You can _____. You can try to reason. You can try it all. But ultimately, you need to look at your potential client base and determine what it will take to get them inside the stadium. Continuing to do the same and expect them to change their minds is just bad business. Does it seem wrong to give free parking and tailgating for example? Sure it does. But where does opportunity cost come in? If you increase attendance to Hud era, you replace ALL revenue from TG and RV spots several times over with ticket sales. You also have 10k+ more customers to market to for small RCAF donations and more premium seats. This in addition to fixing the gameday management inside the stadium is how you build an atmosphere. When you are selling out the stadium and still have demand, that's when you start nickel and diming. Not when you have 20k open seats every weekend.
I partially agree with you. I 100% agree that the biggest thing lacking here is a place for the casaul fan to walk up, claim a spot and tailgate. But you do not want to up root your current donors to do so. Many RCAF members are members for the sole reason to buy parking passes and tailgate spots only, you take that away your membership declines over night.
If we are to grow as many want to grow it is time to start thinking outside the fences of Cajun field parking lot. It just isn't big enough for 30k fans to park and tailgate. It is time to create something totally new for the walk up fan. How many college stadiums TG's are concentrated to a parking lot on the north and west side of the stadium only? None. Most are spread out across campus. IMO the best place for that expansion is from the Cajun Dome to the Blackham. There is plenty of space for first come first serve tailgating. You could hire a second band and have them play in the big field between frat row and Blackham. If they continue to limit growth inside of cajun field fences only they won't have the room to get to the capacity most desire.
Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
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Originally Posted by
KajunKrazy
I partially agree with you. I 100% agree that the biggest thing lacking here is a place for the casaul fan to walk up, claim a spot and tailgate. But you do not want to up root your current donors to do so. Many RCAF members are members for the sole reason to buy parking passes and tailgate spots only, you take that away your membership declines over night.
If we are to grow as many want to grow it is time to start thinking outside the fences of Cajun field parking lot. It just isn't big enough for 30k fans to park and tailgate. It is time to create something totally new for the walk up fan. How many college stadiums TG's are concentrated to a parking lot on the north and west side of the stadium only? None. Most are spread out across campus. IMO the best place for that expansion is from the Cajun Dome to the Blackham. There is plenty of space for first come first serve tailgating. You could hire a second band and have them play in the big field between frat row and Blackham. If they continue to limit growth inside of cajun field fences only they won't have the room to get to the capacity most desire.
Have any of these ideas been pitched to the people in charge? We need to start writing some emails. Who’s the brains behind all this?
Re: Casual fans realistic expectations?
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Big Poppa
When you talk about Lafayette as a community as a whole and you say we are a community that wants something for free that is just not true. You know how many people from this community that are at that festival and are spending big bucks in BR on Saturdays in the fall? Cajun fans, not Lafayette, are an entitled bunch that wants every thing for free. Those that get to park across the street for free complain because they can’t park in the RCAF lot for free. We have free parking right across the street from the stadium. No where else in America are you getting that deal. If you go to an on campus stadium and you park as close as from the Light Center to Blackham you are paying equivalent to RCAF lots here. UL HAS NO PARKING PROBLEMS AT ALL. Actually one the best situations in the country. UL is one of the most affordable college football outings in all of FBS football, with the best parking situation there is compared to on campus venues, but people here will complain no matter what.
So you have parked your car...
Now what?
CM is saying make it a multifaceted event with the football game being the culmination.
Ideas, not complaints.
Re: Realistic Game Day Expectations?
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Originally Posted by
KajunKrazy
I partially agree with you. I 100% agree that the biggest thing lacking here is a place for the casaul fan to walk up, claim a spot and tailgate. But you do not want to up root your current donors to do so. Many RCAF members are members for the sole reason to buy parking passes and tailgate spots only, you take that away your membership declines over night.
If we are to grow as many want to grow it is time to start thinking outside the fences of Cajun field parking lot. It just isn't big enough for 30k fans to park and tailgate. It is time to create something totally new for the walk up fan. How many college stadiums TG's are concentrated to a parking lot on the north and west side of the stadium only? None. Most are spread out across campus. IMO the best place for that expansion is from the Cajun Dome to the Blackham. There is plenty of space for first come first serve tailgating. You could hire a second band and have them play in the big field between frat row and Blackham. If they continue to limit growth inside of cajun field fences only they won't have the room to get to the capacity most desire.
I live 2 blocks from the stadium. The tailgating scene is nothing like it was a decade ago. The investment, time and additional logistics required for that second location would be wasted. That "second class" tailgating will get the same response as the empty paid parking lot. Is RCAF going to foot that bill when the ROI isn't there? You are trying to force things when it needs to be organic. I want people planning to tailgate and getting to a full Cajun Field lot and then having to look for a spot to set up shop. The university can have a plan for when this happens but it shouldn't be offered as an option ahead of time. All you are doing is creating more and more supply when demand already isn't there.
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Let me say this, and some people aren't going to like it. The attendance wasn't great to begin with, so does it really matter now? We can talk about all the promotional things the athletic department should be doing, but if people need to be given discount parking and tickets to come watch a program that has been ranked the past 2 seasons and lost 1 game last year, it's just not going to happen. I know, they hired Coach Desormeaux. Got it!
