Desormeaux: Integrity Defined

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

We’ll record sometime this week. The Twitter space last night was pretty intense. Hope some of y’all were able to be there.

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Was there for hour or so but the Florida fans couldn't wrap their head around why we were missed plus the trolls were quite annoying. Wish it was all cajuns fans vs 15% cajuns 80% Florida, 5% trolls

The man told his friends, colleagues and the Boss that gave him his first opportunity something. He billed himself as a man of honor and integrity.

And as soon as he saw that he stepped into a disaster at Florida, he panicked, and stabbed them all in the back. And continues to do so.

Sorry, I’m not on the “business is business” train this time. I’m a little disappointed to see how many people seem to look past shîtbag behavior just to justify someone they liked and supported at one point. To borrow BJ’s term, y’all can forgive the situational ethics that Billy has reverted to; I will not. It may not be illegal but it’s still shîtty. He sold Maggard, Des and the fanbase a dream. Then he screwed us over.

And oh btw, it’s still happening..

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Originally Posted by GreatestStory

Started to post yesterday, but figured it would be an unpopular opinion, but here goes...

Players come, players go. EVERY team deals with it. Good teams overcome, other teams cry about it. If we aren't capable of overcoming losing a few players and coaches, we are not as good a team as we thought we were.

I stand with the players and coaches who want to be here. The depth chart will be adjusted and some players will now be starters, I congratulate them. Now is their time to show why they were awarded a scholarship. Let's not overshadow their moment to rise up because the guy in front of them chose to leave. They may turn out to be just as good as the guy they are replacing.

In this age of $5,000,000+ annual salaried coaches, it's WIN NOW OR YOU ARE GONE. No, I don't like what is happening here, but Napier has to do everything in his power to win... just like he did when he was here. Had we hired a coach from outside our program and he brought players with him to improve our team, we would be happy about it. I think the NIL + transfer portal combination is what we are really upset about.

I understand Coach Des is upset, and rightfully so. I wouldn't have fired off that passive-aggressive tweet because I'm more of a tell you to your face type of guy, but maybe it was a good technique to rally the players and fans.

I do not like the situation, but have no doubt we will be fine.

GEAUX CAJUNS

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How do you know that conversation didn't happen before his tweet? I was told there was a pretty heated phone conversation between the two and Coach Desormeaux let it be known exactly what he thoughts were without mentioning Billy Napier's name.

We all know the NIL is a legal way to recruit athletes to another program with the Transfer Portal in place. And had any other program done so, most of us would still be upset losing some of our top athletes. But Billy Napier has made this very personal by deliberately targeting athletes from his former program and staff. Regardless of the conditions he walked into at Florida, what he has done may not be illegal, but it's certainly unethical. He isn't doing this to any other program right now. And while it was somewhat expected to a certain degree, his back tracking on the number of support staff he was going to take with him and additional players is situational ethics at best.

"Sorry, I’m not on the “business is business” train this time. I’m a little disappointed to see how many people seem to look past shîtbag behavior just to justify someone they liked and supported at one point. To borrow BJ’s term, y’all can forgive the situational ethics that Billy has reverted to; I will not. It may not be illegal but it’s still shîtty. He sold Maggard, Des and the fanbase a dream. Then he screwed us over."

This! 1000%

This is what I’m confused about: if business is business and there’s no such thing as integrity, loyalty, or gentleman’s agreements in CFB why are Florida and Billy fans getting so upset about someone implying Billy doesn’t have integrity. You’ve already admitted you don’t believe in or hold that virtue in high regard. Why do you care that a group of people think Billy doesn’t have it?

Napier fulfilled his contact and left within the terms set in the contract. Gentlemen’s agreements, handshake agreements are a thing of the past. He left us better than we could of imagined.

How many of us would be raked over the coals at work if a deal went sideways and our excuse was “we had a gentleman’s agreement?”. Or even a business owner, you’d be kicking yourself.

Nobody would of signed a deal not to recruit players like some proposed, that’s the issue that brought about the NIL. Such an agreement would of restricted a third party from profiting off their NIL. If there was a “gentlemen’s agreement”, it wasn’t legal…it restricted third parties (coaches and players) without their consent. Where’s the integrity in that?

Communication is a 2 way street; doesn’t mean Napier initiated every move.

Move on and learn. Besides until the moves are all done, is it all Florida? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Napier fulfilled his contact and left within the terms set in the contract. Gentlemen’s agreements, handshake agreements are a thing of the past. He left us better than we could of imagined.

How many of us would be raked over the coals at work if a deal went sideways and our excuse was “we had a gentleman’s agreement?”. Or even a business owner, you’d be kicking yourself.

Nobody would of signed a deal not to recruit players like some proposed, that’s the issue that brought about the NIL. Such an agreement would of restricted a third party from profiting off their NIL. If there was a “gentlemen’s agreement”, it wasn’t legal…it restricted third parties (coaches and players) without their consent. Where’s the integrity in that?

Communication is a 2 way street; doesn’t mean Napier initiated every move.

Move on and learn.

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You can "move on" and at the same time time point out when someone has destroyed their name here. The two are not mutually exclusive you know. Only lawyers think the words of a contract are the only thing that is important in the world.

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Originally Posted by CharlieK

You can "move on" and at the same time time point out when someone has destroyed their name here. The two are not mutually exclusive you know. Only lawyers think the words of a contract are the only thing that is important in the world.

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Thank you. I wonder if people reason through things with their kids this way. It would explain a lot.

Bridges have been burned. That's not my opinion; that is a fact.

I’m 100% in the camp that Des and Maggard learned an important lesson in this and they learned it the best way, the hard way. I also believe Maggard never should have hired someone if he didn’t believe he could handle the full responsibilities of being a D1 head coach, i.e. assembling an entire staff.

However, why make a gentleman’s agreement if you’re Billy if there is no such thing? Business is business. Lying to someone’s face is still lying to their face. You can make business moves all you want. God bless. Don’t hold your hand over your heart like a heart Grandma and gasp when people think you lack character.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Napier fulfilled his contact and left within the terms set in the contract. Gentlemen’s agreements, handshake agreements are a thing of the past. He left us better than we could of imagined.

How many of us would be raked over the coals at work if a deal went sideways and our excuse was “we had a gentleman’s agreement?”. Or even a business owner, you’d be kicking yourself.

Nobody would of signed a deal not to recruit players like some proposed, that’s the issue that brought about the NIL. Such an agreement would of restricted a third party from profiting off their NIL. If there was a “gentlemen’s agreement”, it wasn’t legal…it restricted third parties (coaches and players) without their consent. Where’s the integrity in that?

Communication is a 2 way street; doesn’t mean Napier initiated every move.

Move on and learn. Besides until the moves are all done, is it all Florida? I doubt it.

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We’ve now reached the point where Billy fans are saying it’s illegal to agree NOT to use NIL deals to poach players signed to a program and not in the transfer portal. We’ve come a long way from the first NIL thread.