Is Marlin the guy for the program?

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

Bull Hooey, If your scared to can the guy because he finally made his 3rd tourney appearance in 13 years, then stick to that. To say there isn't a soul in America who would take this job who could do anything with it because you hurt an old man's feelings by putting him into retirement a a couple of years before the thought he should go is pure dog crap. The school won't can him because he meets their status quo. And to ask them to at this time is unreasonable.

But get this. I'm calling it now. Marley never sees another NCAA tournament the rest of his days unless he goes as announcer/analyst/assistant/fan/etc. He will never bring another basketball team to the NCAA tournament. And that is your fate as long as you hitch your plow to his wagon UL fan. So it was written. So it was done.

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Maybe, but Martin Hall would never pull that trigger. Trust me when I tell you, they are THRILLED about this run. Relieved, one might say.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

Bull Hooey, If your scared to can the guy because he finally made his 3rd tourney appearance in 13 years, then stick to that. To say there isn't a soul in America who would take this job who could do anything with it because you hurt an old man's feelings by putting him into retirement a couple of years before he thought he should go is pure dog crap. The school won't can him because he meets their status quo. And to ask them to at this time is unreasonable.

But get this. I'm calling it now. Marley never sees another NCAA tournament the rest of his days unless he goes as announcer/analyst/assistant/fan/etc. He will never bring another basketball team to the NCAA tournament. And that is your fate as long as you hitch your plow to his wagon UL fan. So it was written. So it was done.

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THIS ^^^^^

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

Maybe, but Martin Hall would never pull that trigger. Trust me when I tell you, they are THRILLED about this run. Relieved, one might say.

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They don't like the "T" word [Termination] around here. That would require work. We don't like to work.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

Bull Hooey, If your scared to can the guy because he finally made his 3rd tourney appearance in 13 years, then stick to that. To say there isn't a soul in America who would take this job who could do anything with it because you hurt an old man's feelings by putting him into retirement a couple of years before he thought he should go is pure dog crap. The school won't can him because he meets their status quo. And to ask them to at this time is unreasonable.

But get this. I'm calling it now. Marley never sees another NCAA tournament the rest of his days unless he goes as announcer/analyst/assistant/fan/etc. He will never bring another basketball team to the NCAA tournament. And that is your fate as long as you hitch your plow to his wagon UL fan. So it was written. So it was done.

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T was spot on correct. You cannot fire a man after that run. It will make the job very unattractive to a future coach. Who wants a job at this level where making the NCAA tournament gets you fired?

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

Maybe, but Martin Hall would never pull that trigger. Trust me when I tell you, they are THRILLED about this run. Relieved, one might say.

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We should all be in agreement that the "powers that be" wouldn't consider letting the man go after this, his crowning achievement. Rather using this mildly successful accomplishment to justify all the other years of absolute mediocrity in which this program has barely achieved the "open for business" award presented by the average business bureau every half decade, or so.

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Originally Posted by KajunKrazy

T was spot on correct. You cannot fire a man after that run. It will make the job very unattractive to a future coach. Who wants a job at this level where making the NCAA tournament gets you fired?

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A coach who wants to make the NCAA tournament, win a couple of games & then leave for a better job?

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Originally Posted by KajunKrazy

T was spot on correct. You cannot fire a man after that run. It will make the job very unattractive to a future coach. Who wants a job at this level where making the NCAA tournament gets you fired?

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Happened to Scott Cross at UTA. Since then, UTA has been awful. Cautionary tale in many respects.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

Bull Hooey, If your scared to can the guy because he finally made his 3rd tourney appearance in 13 years, then stick to that. To say there isn't a soul in America who would take this job who could do anything with it because you hurt an old man's feelings by putting him into retirement a couple of years before he thought he should go is pure dog crap. The school won't can him because he meets their status quo. And to ask them to at this time is unreasonable.

But get this. I'm calling it now. Marley never sees another NCAA tournament the rest of his days unless he goes as announcer/analyst/assistant/fan/etc. He will never bring another basketball team to the NCAA tournament. And that is your fate as long as you hitch your plow to his wagon UL fan. So it was written. So it was done.

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Kyle, you also predicted there was no chance this past year's team would be successful. No way to know how the future will turn out as we don't know who will be brought in at this stage in spring recruiting. We also don't know how much of a contribution the 2 guards brought in during fall recruiting can make. Last year there was lots of negativity on this forum following the retention decision. Despite that they brought in a guy who finished in the top 10 in the country in assists in spring recruiting. They also brought in a starting forward in AUGUST who was one of the tops in the nation at his position in not only FG percentage but FT percentage. He was also a strong rebounder. Now we are coming into recruiting with some positives. I don't know if they can duplicate that recruiting success but to automatically say they will struggle in the future is premature. By the same token I won't automatically say success is certain. I do remind people that in the one game we did not have Jordan Brown this season we bolted out to a 41 to 17 halftime lead against Troy. We also have a young and hungry staff of assistants. They and the rest of the support staff do much more work than most fans realize. Listen to the podcast Craig and I recorded this morning if you want to learn more about those guys.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

We should all be in agreement that the "powers that be" wouldn't consider letting the man go after this, his crowning achievement. Rather using this mildly successful accomplishment to justify all the other years of absolute mediocrity in which this program has barely achieved the "open for business" award presented by the average business bureau every half decade, or so.

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I hear you. That was the danger of extended him a couples years ago and then retaining him after last year.

If I'm understanding correctly, his contract was ending this year with an extension clause for making the ncaa tournament. If that's the case, he's here next year. There's also a reasonable chance that returning to the dance next year doesn't happen. The unreasonable scenario is if he falls to say 5th or worse in the conference. I don't want to hear the excuse about losing everyone. That's part of the job too. Going all in every 4-5 years is never going to revive the fanbase.

I don't think there was an extension clause. CajunT can provided more information in that regard. A new contract will have to be prepared and agreed to. That is likely a formality at this stage.

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Originally Posted by CajunRage

If I'm understanding correctly, his contract was ending this year with an extension clause for making the ncaa tournament. If that's the case, he's here next year. There's also a reasonable chance that returning to the dance next year doesn't happen. The unreasonable scenario is if he falls to say 5th or worse in the conference. I don't want to hear the excuse about losing everyone. That's part of the job too. Going all in every 4-5 years is never going to revive the fanbase.

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What fan base. I will gladly be the bearer of bad news. Marlin will never rejuvenate the base. It will take a really good young coach and an even better personality to get this fan base back on board.

Now, if Marlin can 3 peat we might start seeing casual fans show up again. If we improve the schedule.

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

Happened to Scott Cross at UTA. Since then, UTA hasn't been awful. Cautionary tale in many respects.

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"hasn't" or "has"?

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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike

I do remind people that in the one game we did not have Jordan Brown this season we bolted out to a 41 to 17 halftime lead against Troy.

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Optimism boost. I'm excited to see what CBM can do this offseason to retain the momentum of this year.

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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike

Kyle, you also predicted there was no chance this past year's team would be successful. No way to know how the future will turn out as we don't know who will be brought in at this stage in spring recruiting. We also don't know how much of a contribution the 2 guards brought in during fall recruiting can make. Last year there was lots of negativity on this forum following the retention decision. Despite that they brought in a guy who finished in the top 10 in the country in assists in spring recruiting. They also brought in a starting forward in AUGUST who was one of the tops in the nation at his position in not only FG percentage but FT percentage. He was also a strong rebounder. Now we are coming into recruiting with some positives. I don't know if they can duplicate that recruiting success but to automatically say they will struggle in the future is premature. By the same token I won't automatically say success is certain. I do remind people that in the one game we did not have Jordan Brown this season we bolted out to a 41 to 17 halftime lead against Troy. We also have a young and hungry staff of assistants. They and the rest of the support staff do much more work than most fans realize. Listen to the podcast Craig and I recorded this morning if you want to learn more about those guys.

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Please refer to that post. Because you never heard any such thing from me. The only thing I asked was how would things work out if this team won 20, or more games & no one was at the Cajun Dome to see it because the fans are tired of Marley.

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Originally Posted by RedTails

Optimism boost. I'm excited to see what CBM can do this offseason to retain the momentum of this year.

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Here is what we know, if everything stays the same. First off, I might say, you can not fire Marlin after this run, if you wanted to do it last year was the year to do it. I agree with the poster that said, this job would be hugely unattractive if you fire him after the season he had and the success he had this year.

#1 we might get JB back, we don't know anything now, as a glass half full guy, I really am hoping we get him back and if we do, we will be considered the favorite to win the league again.

#2 The way Marlin used Kobe this year was nothing short of brilliant. Kobe if he returns, will be returning for the first time that he did not have to sit out tons of games because of injury. Late in the year, you could see how much he was feeling better vs early in the year. If he can add a few minutes more per game next year and play a little better, he is one of the best players on your team.

#3 you return Themus Fulks, who was way more than I think any of us would have imagined. Another year under his belt and he might end up being the best PG in the SBC.

#4 while he did not end the year very good, you still have one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, if not the country in Kentrell Garnett.

#5 Joe Charles is a difference maker and another year in the weight room and another off season and you can see how much this kid has improved from year #1 until now, can't wait to see what else he can do.

#6 Mike Thomas continues to improve as a backup PG. I said in year #1 he was not even close to a D1 player, I take that back now, he still has a ways to go, but he has improved year over year.

#6 I think many of us believe that Chancellor White has the chance to be very good, he did not get much of a chance this year, mostly because he was behind 2 seniors in Greg Williams and Jalen Dalcourt.

#7 The work on the street is that Kyran Ratliff is good enough to start on this team, if that is true, man redshirting him was a great idea.

#8 The two new guards coming in are supposed to be pretty good, we shall see how that works out.

#9 The transfer portal is huge and has tons of talent, we picked up a great one in Terrance Lewis late last year, if we can get a player or two that can step in right away and fill the void of guys like Williams, Lewis and Dalcourt, we will be ok.

#10 another year of growth for Isaiah Richards in the post behind JB (if he stays) is not a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Thank you.

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I'm not a Marlin supporter and it's never been personal for me. But this is a no brainer for most of us, with the exception of a few. :)

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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike

Kyle, you also predicted there was no chance this past year's team would be successful. No way to know how the future will turn out as we don't know who will be brought in at this stage in spring recruiting. We also don't know how much of a contribution the 2 guards brought in during fall recruiting can make. Last year there was lots of negativity on this forum following the retention decision. Despite that they brought in a guy who finished in the top 10 in the country in assists in spring recruiting. They also brought in a starting forward in AUGUST who was one of the tops in the nation at his position in not only FG percentage but FT percentage. He was also a strong rebounder. Now we are coming into recruiting with some positives. I don't know if they can duplicate that recruiting success but to automatically say they will struggle in the future is premature. By the same token I won't automatically say success is certain. I do remind people that in the one game we did not have Jordan Brown this season we bolted out to a 41 to 17 halftime lead against Troy. We also have a young and hungry staff of assistants. They and the rest of the support staff do much more work than most fans realize. Listen to the podcast Craig and I recorded this morning if you want to learn more about those guys.

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However, reading the rest of your post it sounds as though there should be a lot of enthusiasm for the future of Cajuns basketball. When will Marley begin this sales process to the people who buy tickets? You are the most positively positive optimist the UL fan base has. However, I would appreciate this coach selling his team as if he buys them himself & him be willing to take accountability if these guys underperform. And schedule someone decent for the love of Molly would you please?

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

Here is what we know, if everything stays the same. First off, I might say, you can not fire Marlin after this run, if you wanted to do it last year was the year to do it. I agree with the poster that said, this job would be hugely unattractive if you fire him after the season he had and the success he had this year.

#1 we might get JB back, we don't know anything now, as a glass half full guy, I really am hoping we get him back and if we do, we will be considered the favorite to win the league again.

#2 The way Marlin used Kobe this year was nothing short of brilliant. Kobe if he returns, will be returning for the first time that he did not have to sit out tons of games because of injury. Late in the year, you could see how much he was feeling better vs early in the year. If he can add a few minutes more per game next year and play a little better, he is one of the best players on your team.

#3 you return Themus Fulks, who was way more than I think any of us would have imagined. Another year under his belt and he might end up being the best PG in the SBC.

#4 while he did not end the year very good, you still have one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, if not the country in Kentrell Garnett.

#5 Joe Charles is a difference maker and another year in the weight room and another off season and you can see how much this kid has improved from year #1 until now, can't wait to see what else he can do.

#6 Mike Thomas continues to improve as a backup PG. I said in year #1 he was not even close to a D1 player, I take that back now, he still has a ways to go, but he has improved year over year.

#6 I think many of us believe that Chancellor White has the chance to be very good, he did not get much of a chance this year, mostly because he was behind 2 seniors in Greg Williams and Jalen Dalcourt.

#7 The work on the street is that Kyran Ratliff is good enough to start on this team, if that is true, man redshirting him was a great idea.

#8 The two new guards coming in are supposed to be pretty good, we shall see how that works out.

#9 The transfer portal is huge and has tons of talent, we picked up a great one in Terrance Lewis late last year, if we can get a player or two that can step in right away and fill the void of guys like Williams, Lewis and Dalcourt, we will be ok.

#10 another year of growth for Isaiah Richards in the post behind JB (if he stays) is not a bad thing.

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I think you were originally correct on Thomas, nothing he did this season has changed my mine. And I add Garnett to that category. Neither have the ability of a Wright, Stove, Barkley or Stroman.

Richard doesn't play under control and has little touch around the basket. Frankly, I think all three of those kids need major improvement to gain my confidence.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

I think you were originally correct on Thomas, nothing he did this season has changed my mine. And I add Garnett to that category. Neither have the ability of a Wright, Stove, Barkley or Stroman.

Richard doesn't play under control and has little touch around the basket. Frankly, I think all three of those kids need major improvement to gain my confidence.

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I will agree with the statement comparing them to Wright, Stove, Barkley or Stroman, but those were some special players you are comparing them to. That said as a spot up shooter Garnett is really good.

Richard will never be a starter on this team, but I like him for 5-10 minutes a game as a backup big man. He needs a ton of work and is very raw, but he does clog the middle and gets some rebounds.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

Correct me if I am wrong but is that 3 championships in 26 opportunities?

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…..well with 2 NCAA TOURNEYS 28…..NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHER BUY INS!<

When is the dead line for JB to decide if he will stay one more year at UL or declare for draft?

Anyone know how our attendance has been from 2010 to 2023? Pretty stagnant?

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Originally Posted by CajunT

I think you were originally correct on Thomas, nothing he did this season has changed my mine. And I add Garnett to that category. Neither have the ability of a Wright, Stove, Barkley or Stroman.

Richard doesn't play under control and has little touch around the basket. Frankly, I think all three of those kids need major improvement to gain my confidence.

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I'd be very surprised if Michael Thomas returns.