2016: Alden Report Released by University of Louisiana Athletics

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Originally Posted by basinbear

LARC is fine as a sports ticker abbreviation...
A sports ticker abbreviation is not the same as what we would use on caps and uni's....for example, when you look up a Louisville score the abbreviation is LOU but they use the single "L" on caps and UNIs. Everyone knows Oklahoma as "OU" but on a sports ticker they are known as "OKLA". I would bet ULA would have been legal to give the SunBelt when they requested a sports ticker abbreviation or Even LU. And no, Lamar is not known as LU on sports tickers, it's LAM.

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I'm beginning to like LARC. It would be just a ticker, and says who we are without violating any of those idiotic laws....and no Lafayette in sight.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

This has turned into the thread hijacked to hell...

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The thread topic involves about 63,762 different subtopics... where exactly was this particular plane supposed to land?

http://www.lafayettelarc.org

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Originally Posted by Just1More

The thread topic involves about 63,762 different subtopics... where exactly was this particular plane supposed to land?

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Who knows? Back to the report...I just hope that the report is being studied and discussed by those who need to.

I'm sticking with UL.

Interesting , Credible sources outside the University

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Originally Posted by Stabil123

Interesting , Credible sources outside the University

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I stand by that.

But if you prefer, a public statement by our AD was made that [paraphrasing] "We are comfortable in the Sun Belt". Another statement from him [again a paraphrase] "We are not ready to change conferences at this time."

Both can be easily interpreted as "We have no interest in changing conferences."

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Originally Posted by CajunDreDog

So, NO ONE outside of Acadiana knows of this acronym being used? I live in BR and don't know of them and their using "LARC".

I think LARC would work! Think about it from a NATIONAL perspective, not local.

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No thanks.

It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
Size of TV market
Size of Budget
I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others

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Originally Posted by Stabil123

It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
Size of TV market
Size of Budget
I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others

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SF stated in the beginning that he wanted to position Louisiana for a better conference. Now, SF states we are happy in the SBC. As Athletic director, you never stop wanting to improve. This needs to be stated publicly for fans to embrace him.

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Originally Posted by Stabil123

It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
Size of TV market
Size of Budget
I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others

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TV market? Louisiana Tech? Western Kentucky?? THE AD can do nothing about the size of the budget? At most Athletic Departments the AD is the big closer when it comes to fundraising.....I have been told by others in this business and those connected to other Universities we have not even tried to move.....showed no interest in moving. We are burying ourselves..

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

I'm sticking with UL.

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Me too. We have been fighting for this since the 80's... We have gained some traction... It's fun to p-off my a&m@br friends... I do believe it is a long term branding issue that will come along with success, growth and a new conference... We have to STICK with something... Our opponents in-state use the evolution from SLI to USL to ULL to our brand of UL as a source of derision.

We have set on the UL path.. Stick to the fight.. Don't give up

Short anecdote... By nephew is an outstanding baseball player playing at a JUCO right now... From BR and his family are avid a&m@br fans.... He has interest from UNO and some other state teams but said he has not heard from "UL"... the latter has been a monumental change for him and his dad... Coming out of High School Tony offered a preferred walk-on position... His ego was to large to accept.. He thought he would get a similar walk-on from a&m@br.... The point here is that his exposure here when on his visit, my pushing UL... has worked in his family...

One-b-one we can win.... but we have to stay the course... Jay started this way back when he said he would forever refer to us as "Louisiana" during the broadcasts.. He has not waivered. Neither should we

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Originally Posted by IHateLaState

Me too. We have been fighting for this since the 80's... We have gained some traction... It's fun to p-off my a&m@br friends... I do believe it is a long term branding issue that will come along with success, growth and a new conference... We have to STICK with something... Our opponents in-state use the evolution from SLI to USL to ULL to our brand of UL as a source of derision.

We have set on the UL path.. Stick to the fight.. Don't give up

Short anecdote... By nephew is an outstanding baseball player playing at a JUCO right now... From BR and his family are avid a&m@br fans.... He has interest from UNO and some other state teams but said he has not heard from "UL"... the latter has been a monumental change for him and his dad... Coming out of High School Tony offered a preferred walk-on position... His ego was to large to accept.. He thought he would get a similar walk-on from a&m@br.... The point here is that his exposure here when on his visit, my pushing UL... has worked in his family...

One-b-one we can win.... but we have to stay the course... Jay started this way back when he said he would forever refer to us as "Louisiana" during the broadcasts.. He has not waivered. Neither should we

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OC games against the P-5s that they tend to put Louisiana on the tickets and scoreboards---Who would you rather your fans think you are playing Louisiana-??? or Louisiana??? again we get LSU pushing us and the others in state pulling us down-----Keep fighting---If we get into a different conference I really think it would be over or the tide to have changed demonstratively!!!

( no interested in trying to move) Just curious, do you think that decision was made by the AD?

I think the person who made that decision was heavily influenced by the person he hired to evaluate such matters; and that would be the AD.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

We can correct the mistakes we made in the past. We can't erase them, but we better remove the people that made them repeatedly and after being advised by knowledgeable people of better ways to do things. We have brought in really competent people [Ken Winstead comes to mind] then handcuffed them for whatever reason. The person or people who put on those handcuffs should be dismissed from their employment and we should move forward with people who will implement the plan we have been given without hesitation and with conviction.

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And this may be your best post ever.

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Originally Posted by BirdofParadise

Which is Oregon

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agreed. there are other lsu's as well.....UO-norman then.....

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Originally Posted by Boomer

<p>Notice when we play our O
OC games against the P-5s that they tend to put Louisiana on the tickets and scoreboards---Who would you rather your fans think you are playing Louisiana-??? or Louisiana??? again we get LSU pushing us and the others in state pulling us down<p>-Keep fighting---If we get into a different conference I really think it would be over or the tide to have changed demonstratively!!!

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Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?

A good abbreviation is as good as an acronym.

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Originally Posted by CajunJack55

I couldn't find anything more recent, the following breakdown of fee charges is updated for Spring 2013 fee schedule as of 12.02.12:.. but I do not see any fees regarding getting into athletic events for free except for the "Auxiliary Operations Fee" and if that is it then I would assume Martin Hall and I would love see the breakdown of how much of that $100 goes towards athletics. (Probably higher in 2016 but still seems low)

*Board Assessed Fees:

Tuition/General Registration
-Up to $ 2,234.28 per semester
Building Use fee
-$10.00 per semester
Building Use Fee-New
-Up to $48.00 per semester
Academic Enhancement
-$25.00 per semester
Academic Excellence
-$10.00 per credit hour; $30.00 minimum, $120.00 maximum
Operational Fee
-up to $61.20 per semester

University Assessed Fees:

Records and Evaluation Fee ($10.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for maintenance of student academic records; provides students with free copies of University transcripts.
Auxiliary Operations Fee ($100.00 assessed at 4 or more credit hours)
-Provides ancillary student support for Auxiliary services which include the Student Union, transit system, operations, recreational sports/activities, the health clinic, and other student related services.
Energy Fee (up to $60.00 per semester)
-Provides funding to offset energy costs of the University
Student Self-Assessed Fees
Masterplan Advancement Program ($7.50 per credit hour, maximum of 15 credits)
-Provides funding for campus improvements with input from students
Student Union (up to $23.00 per semester)
-Provide funding for construction and maintenance of existing UL Lafayette Student Union
Student Union ($20.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours.
-Provides funding for construction and maintenance of a new first-class Student Center
Student Union ($55.00 per semester for students at 6 or more credit hours
-Provides funding for construction and maintenance of a new first-class Student Center
Student Technology Fee ($5.00 per credit hour)
-Provides funding to enhance student-accessible technology on campus
ID Photo ($10.00 per semester)
-Provide for ID photographs and identification cards
La Louisiane-Alumni ($2.50 per semester)
-Provides funding for La Louisiane, the alumni magazine
Debate ($1.00 per semester)
-Provide funding for travel expenses for the University Debate Team
Entertainment ($5.50 per semester)
-Provide funding for University Program Council for events like Lagniappe Week, Ragin Roar, and Homecoming. UPC sponsored events are free to students
Day Care ($2.25 per semester)
-Provides for top quality child care at affordable prices for children of full time students.
Intramurals ($2.00 per semester)
-Provides for intramural sports for UL Lafayette students
Band Association (up to $5.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for the Pride of Acadiana March Band
Student Loan (.50 per semester)
-Provides for emergency loan assistance through the short-term loan program.
Lyceum (up to $1.00 per semester)
-Provides for academic speakers at the University
Book (.10 per semester)
L 'Acadian ($12.00 per Fall semester for students with 12 or more credit hours)
-Provides a copy of the L 'Acadian Yearbook for each full-time student
KRVS (.50 per semester)
-Provides funding for KRVS, the campus radio station
SGA ($7.50 per semester for 6 or more credit hours)
-Provides funding for the Student Government Association
Insurance ($22.00 per semester for students assessed at 7 or more undergraduate credit hours or 6 or more graduate credit hours)
-Provides students with health care coverage
Vermilion ($2.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for the student published newspaper
SGA Scholarship (.75 per semester)
-Provides funding for SGA-awarded scholarships
International Student Council (.35 per semester)
Club Sports ($3.15 per semester)
-Provide funding for club sports such as Judo, Bowling, Soccer, Rugby, Tae Kwan Do, Skeet Shooting, and Water Skiing.
Arts Fee (up to $7.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for the UL Lafayette Symphony Orchestra and UL Lafayette
Performing Arts
Cheerleaders (up to $4.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for UL Lafayette cheerleaders
University Police ($1.00 per semester) Provides funding for the University Police Department for scholarships, student officers, Code Blue emergency systems, crime prevention programs, and equipment for officers.
Art Museum (up to $5.00 per semester)
-Provides funding for the University Art Museum
Parking and Transit (up to $25.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours)
-Provides funding to maintain transit facilities (buses), improve parking facilities, and provide free parking at Cajun Field and Zone 40.
Recreational-.Facility/Equipment ($20.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more
Credit hours)
Student Health Service ($20.00 per semester for 6 or more credit hours)
-Provides health care services to student free of charge
Student Health Service Support ($5.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours
-Provides support services for Student Health Services
Auxiliary Improvement
-$15.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours
Initial Enrollment Fee ($7.50 first time freshmen only)
-Provides enrollment services to first-time stude

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Can you be more specific?

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Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?

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LA

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Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?

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---I didn't like it initially but starting to favor ULA...

Finally had the opportunity to thumb through this thing..

The specific personnel evaluations are not included in this version of the report, so take that into consideration.

I'd personally like to thank Mike Alden and his staff for spending time reading RP and it's many fine posters for valuable input in their report. This is quite literally a condensed "thread" of everything we've discussed, complained and warned about for 10 years here, on this forum. It's pretty unbelievable actually.

But seriously, the "don't put this plan on the shelf" comment is so multi-layered in meaning. First and foremost, we have to go out and find an Athletic Director that can handle this kind of undertaking. We are severely, SEVERELY lacking at this position and have been for a really long time. So implement the correct leadership and then, and only then, can we proceed with our future endeavors.

For anyone saying that we are financially disadvantaged with our current economic state: Let me remind you of Mr. Warren Buffet's strategy of investing -- "When people are buying, be fearful. When people are fearful, be buying." The time is now. Excuses and difficulties be damned.

Have we been under staffed? Sure we have. But how LONG have we been understaffed? I can absolutely hold our administration accountable for not addressing a major issue that has plagued our growth in athletics for this amount of time! If you need people, FIGURE IT OUT. It's been said many times here; put the football stadium suites (that you can't sell anyway) on the back-burner for now, endow athletic scholarships; then use the money that's currently being allocated for that to staff a full, functioning athletic department.

I was a little disappointed in the 'LARC' suggestion. I think we can do better than that.

It's now all on the Prez.

ULA is a better acronym than ULL and LARC IMO.

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Originally Posted by cajun4life

ULA is a better acronym than ULL and LARC IMO.

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Go ULA

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Guys....the name thing IS important.....there is one Hell of a lot more than that in this report.....