Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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JAB
To be fair, several people previously commented on this and other threads saying to embrace the suck or preach the suck or whatever. That didn’t just come out of nowhere. And Vic’s frequent point on here is that RP users are too negative, rather than giving the university and the coaches a chance to show that they know what they are doing.
The rest of RP’s general point is that Vic is the one who causes negativity because he picks fights on RP. Here’s the problem with that idea: Vic is negative TOWARD RP, whereas RP is negative TOWARD THE UNIVERSITY. If I understand Vic’s point (which is a very big if), it’s one thing to constantly complain about the athletic department (what almost everyone does on here) but it’s an entirely different thing to complain about RP (what Vic does on here).
Go read those posts again. They're personal attacks. Then, when called out, we have to hear "cry me a river" or "you don't want to debate because feelings" nonsense which takes the conversation even more south than previously claimed. It's no coincidence that the "ignore" button is popular around this topic not because other posters refuse to debate, but no one wants to put up with that elementary school foolishness. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
Go read those posts again. They're personal attacks. Then, when called out, we have to hear "cry me a river" or "you don't want to debate because feelings" nonsense which takes the conversation even more south than previously claimed. It's no coincidence that the "ignore" button is popular around this topic not because other posters refuse to debate, but no one wants to put up with that elementary school foolishness. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I don't disagree with you, and it's obviously unproductive if the ultimate goal is to have some sort of discussion about the university.
My point is that the personal attacks come from both sides. Look at how many people tell him to f off, how many people call him stupid or unintelligent, or how many people call him names. If you want to complain about unproductive, personal attacks, then complain about all of them.
There might be more anti-Vic people on the board than pro-Vic people (A LOT more), but that doesn't mean that the anti-Vic people are more virtuous, more correct, or more justified in what they say.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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Originally Posted by
JAB
I don't disagree with you, and it's obviously unproductive if the ultimate goal is to have some sort of discussion about the university.
My point is that the personal attacks come from both sides. Look at how many people tell him to f off, how many people call him stupid or unintelligent, or how many people call him names. If you want to complain about unproductive, personal attacks, then complain about all of them.
There might be more anti-Vic people on the board than pro-Vic people (A LOT more), but that doesn't mean that the anti-Vic people are more virtuous, more correct, or more justified in what they say.
Posters here don't just act that way freely. There's always that first finger that pushes the first domino that causes the rest to fall.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
Posters here don't just act that way freely.
Your posts don't type themselves.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
This is a forum of fans. This is not a forum of admin/coaches/players that Vic seems so adamant to champion on behalf of. Admin/coaches/players will come and go. Is Vic's fandom just as transient as the personnel that make up our programs? Who knows.
But coming here to fill an antagonistic role won't win you a lot of friends with said fans. He's a big boy, he understands this.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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RedTails
This is a forum of fans. This is not a forum of admin/coaches/players that Vic seems so adamant to champion on behalf of. Admin/coaches/players will come and go. Is Vic's fandom just as transient as the personnel that make up our programs? Who knows.
But coming here to fill an antagonistic role won't win you a lot of friends with said fans. He's a big boy, he understands this.
The problem in all of this at the bare roots is that we are in a critical role as an athletic program right now. Yes, we are building a new stadium. And I'm ecstatic that we are in the middle of a $20 million capital campaign (which we will address in the next episode). And the new ticket management team will do wonders for our ticket sales efforts (which we have talked about constantly). But here are the other realities:
-We just experienced our 2nd straight losing season in football with a loss to a team who was FCS this time last year while two years removed from a Top 25 ranking and SBC Championship
-We are still struggling to get fans to the football games
-A HUGE portion of our fanbase feels outpriced and unwanted due to low fan engagement
-We have people that live in Lafayette that didn't even know Cajun Field was getting a renovation
-Our basketball program just went to the NCAA Tournament, and we sold the least amount of season tickets that I can remember outside of the COVID season
-We are sitting at 6-5 in basketball and our attendance is 9th in the Sun Belt
-We have fallen trap to the claw of NIL
Those are just basic facts. There's no agenda behind it. I'm giving attendance numbers and W-L records that's simple data. So with the first few good topics I mentioned, we also mention the not so good topics that fans are talking about. If that is considered "preaching the suck," then so be it. It needs to be addressed and discussed. As a fan base, we have had the rug pulled from under us for so long in the past that if we don't address these topics; people will never some back. That's our alternative.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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ManAboutTown
JAB = Vic
You can't make me believe otherwise.
Definitely not true. Last time Vic signed up for a burner account, he outed himself in 4 posts. No way he could be running the JAB account. There are actually structured sentences and finished thought. That rules out Vic.
Now is it a Vic-adjacent? Maybe. Maybe someone who Vic talks to a lot. Or maybe someone who has the same bird.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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BabbForHeisman
Definitely not true. Last time Vic signed up for a burner account, he outed himself in 4 posts. No way he could be running the JAB account. There are actually structured sentences and finished thought. That rules out Vic.
Now is it a Vic-adjacent? Maybe. Maybe someone who Vic talks to a lot. Or maybe someone who has the same bird.
absolutely two different fellows. and jab is not vic-adjacent, either.
Re: How to create excitement for UL Athletics?
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Sonsissymia
absolutely two different fellows. and jab is not vic-adjacent, either.
Maybe he just agrees with Vic a lot, which is more a problem for him personally anyway hahahahahaha