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What if a UL tax was put forward by the Parish with the monies going mainly for athletics----think that this would really mean economic developement---better facilities, better conference, better players, more wins equal more fans=more hotel and rest income=more hires=more money circulating = better parish with more income from more people living here!!!! Could we get someone to make a motion to pass this?????
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Maybe we can pass a tax on all LSU merchandise sold in Lafayette Parish........................................:eek:
Maybe we can get it added to the stimulus plan....:rolleyes:
Hey Boomer,Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer
Tax cuts! You need to send the check like Luke Mandola and 100 other people for the Football Supplements program, First! You can't live on the T V donation forever especially, when that was two years ago! Pretty soon we will be able to "dollar cost average" your donation and you will be down to $10 per year! Send the check! YOU are the man!
All I can say is wow! That's quite possibly the stupidest statement I have ever heard from someone that holds a phD? If there was supposed to be 2 or 3 flagship institutions, the concept would be called "Flagships Agenda." The entire concept that Emmert took from UConn and pursued at LSU was founded on the concept that stratification of public institutions is necessary, if a state wants a nationally recognized institution. As opposed to just a bunch of random and unselective institutions that teach kids. This is also a concept that is readily accepted everywhere, and supported by the reality that every state has 1 flagship.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
The fact this state happily funds so many additional schools that can't possibly be justified, almost makes it poetic that a mindset exists that stratification of institutions is somehow un-Louisianan.
If one university is not leading, maybe it's time for another to step up.
2-3 Flagship universities in a state with 4.4 million people and poor funding? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Why stop there? You might as well extend it to 4-5 flagship schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
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Originally Posted by bballholic
I still think you're an LSU guy trying to flame this forum.......
Got Bankruptcy for you!!!! Rick is a classs act!!!!---the TVs were '08 and if I would count down the $200 per year it would be 15 years--so I'll do another 4k this coming year!!!!! Maybe all to the juice!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ULvictory
North Carolina seems to do quite well with 3 major schools within close proximity!!!s! think we need a North La. major school (choose one) with Lsus tech southern of shreve Monroe and lsua are grouped---UL with McNeese Nichols Lsue Maybe lsua under it--Lsu with Southern SLC and NO schools under it!!!!!!
I wouldn't have a conniption over that generic statement, it was couched in a perfect world framework.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUConnMan
Back when he was Louisiana's higher education commissioner Dr. Savoie was not in agreement with multiple flagships. <a href="https://forumeus.com/showthread.php?t=4959" target="_self">Link</a>
Personally I think each system in the State should have a flagship and the States top school should use another phrase.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
North Carolina also has double the population of Louisiana and I'm going to assume significantly more funding for education. Louisiana has far too many four year universities for a state with under 4.5 million people.
Anchor perhaps???Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Now that is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeauCajun
A simultaneous compliment and excoriation depending on your vantage point.
You need to be careful what you hope for. The reason Louisiana maintains so many "other institutions" 4 year university status is to ration what is left over just enough so that no one emerges beyond "the acceptable" second place.Quote:
Originally Posted by bballholic
I could care less about "flagship" status. They need to grant UL #1 aircraft carrier status and start redistributing to reasonable assignement to the rest of "our fleet". When you manage to operate, academically, far beyond your parental hand-out, it becomes all too obvious what is happening. There is an incestuous relationship with the parents and the flagship daughter.
Do you want to tell me what else that group of parents focuses their operations on in this state that is so nationally spectacular? Do you want to know why? Oh yes... it is because we are only 4.5 million people... right?... wrong. You really need to see how lacking our legislative group is... but when they rally around the flagship... the natives tend to dismiss the rest of their ineptness.
When you complain about what this state has and does not have... you need to go back to exactly what runs this state. The government constantly changes out people. There exists only one institution that remains in charge. And therefore... the state ranks where we rank.
Folks, the bottom line is we need to start contacting legislators before they institute cuts that will set us back decades! The current system of cutting budgets needs to be changed! We must act now!!!!!1111:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
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Originally Posted by RedBug58
For Louisiana to have more than one flagship university, we would have to eliminate all the regional schools (NLU, NSU, SLU,McNeese,Nichols, ULM) and possibly Southern & Grambling. They should be junior colleges. Either Tech or UL-Lafayette would be candidates for the other flagship school. This will never happen. Louisiana cannot financially support all these universities which means only one will be considered the flagship (LSU).
The flagship concept is readily accepted everywhere? Every state has one flagship? I wonder how that statement would go over at Ole Miss and Mississippi State, Florida and Florida State, Texas and Texas A & M? Maybe in Arkansas. How about in Alabama? Think Auburn would have a problem with that? Nah...its a concept that works everywhere, right? All I can say is wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUConnMan
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Originally Posted by snote
mais huh? (smiles wide that show the copenhagen between my teeth)
couldn't have said it better myself even if i tried.. ( i am ) bil
ps. are we seeing the same fervor.. thru emails and calls to those 3 guys, the newspapers, talk shows, etc etc etc... that were vocalizing their displeasure of the indy bowl decision.. to say "don't cut money" from "the school they represent" - - - ????
naahh i don't think so..
Might I offer... Albatross?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeauCajun
Due to constitutional mandates in our ass-backwards banana republic, almost everthing but higher ed and hospitals are constitutionally protected from cuts. So, unfortunately, the legislature couldn't do anything about it even if they had the desire which I don't think many of them do.Quote:
Originally Posted by snote
There are, in fact, only two states that have adopted the 'Flagship' model; Louisiana and Arkansas. Two states that rank last and next to last in darn near every educational measurement you can think of. It's not a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by LSUConnMan
Alabama, almost as small in population as Louisiana, and MUCH poorer in resources, has as many 4 year public schools as Louisiana [give or take a couple, I counted 12 and stopped] and MORE than Arkansas, but NO flagship; yet Auburn, Alabama and UAB are all above LSU and Arkansas academically.
That's not an accident, either.
the whole point was to cut the number of docs. and masts. programs and still create a lil geographical link---doubt that the state would close colleges but maybe merge JCs with them at LC and Monroe and others!!!!!This also allows for competition which has proven to work!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bballholic