Lee must Go !

There was a time when UL Basketball was respected aand feared by all D-1 teams. I remember great games against Marquette, The shootout with Houston when the twin towers were there, the upset over Georgia.
Now, not only has our ability to aim high gone out of the window, we are no longer a threat to any decent Mid-Major team. Nor can we beat an average
D-2 team. And to top it off, we have sunk to the level of losing to D-3 schools. There is no more thought process needed, the time for Lee to be sent packing. We didn't really want him originally. There must have been a reason for that. This program has sunk to new levels, and something must be done this week.. Not next year, this Week.

Most of us have been saying that since last year!


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Originally Posted by cjr3888

_ Most of us have been saying that since last year!


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Many of us have been saying that since the day he was hired.

We still can't fire him mid-season. If we fire him I am pretty sure it screws up our APR. We will have to endure this bad season but I have no doubt that his contract will not be renewed.

Next year will be a new start. New coach and I'm guessing a new energy. We will still have a good team next year, but hopefully we will have someone who can coach that good team.

I will continue to go to the games this season to support our team. It's not all the players fault that we have a very poor gameplan.

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Originally Posted by CajunCanaille

_ We still can't fire him mid-season. If we fire him I am pretty sure it screws up our APR. We will have to endure this bad season but I have no doubt that his contract will not be renewed.

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APR has nothing to do with who the coach is except whoever the coach is he or she must make sure their players attend class and set up road trips that are conducive to studying.

The excuse last year about retaining a coach for APR purposes was like selling beach front property in Arizona.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

_ APR has nothing to do with who the coach is except whoever the coach is he or she must make sure their players attend class and set up road trips that are conducive to studying.

The excuse last year about retaining a coach for APR purposes was like selling beach front property in Arizona. _

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Wasn't it sad how the media never questioned that load of crap excuse, I haven’t been able to read the DA sports section since.

Can anyone give us the home attendance per game this year?

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Originally Posted by KACajun

Wasn't it sad how the media never questioned that load of crap excuse, I haven’t been able to read the DA sports section since.

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Yeah, all the DA did was an expansive multi-story look last spring at how the APR issue in men's basketball could have crippled the entire athletic program by falling short of the NCAA's standards this year and what led to the downfall. Tough questions were asked, but you can't control the answers given.

As I stated last spring, it was a lose-lose situation for the school concerning Lee. In my opinion, I felt that best possible move was made to protect all of the university's athletic teams for this upcoming year. Get through this year and then look for another coach.

Wonder how many of you would have felt if the administration had gotten rid of Lee and then every Cajun athletic team was put on probation and softball couldn't go to the College World Series?

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ Yeah, all the DA did was an expansive multi-story look last spring at how the APR issue in men's basketball could have crippled the entire athletic program by falling short of the NCAA's standards this year and what led to the downfall. Tough questions were asked, but you can't control the answers given.

As I stated last spring, it was a lose-lose situation for the school concerning Lee. In my opinion, I felt that best possible move was made to protect all of the university's athletic teams for this upcoming year. Get through this year and then look for another coach.

Wonder how many of you would have felt if the administration had gotten rid of Lee and then every Cajun athletic team was put on probation and softball couldn't go to the College World Series? _

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And by running those stories you helped legitimize the crap the administration was selling!!!!

Are you saying that keeping Lee has saved our entire athletic department from probation?

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Originally Posted by Parrott

_ Yeah, all the DA did was an expansive multi-story look last spring at how the APR issue in men's basketball could have crippled the entire athletic program by falling short of the NCAA's standards this year and what led to the downfall. Tough questions were asked, but you can't control the answers given.

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Wonder how many of you would have felt if the administration had gotten rid of Lee and then every Cajun athletic team was put on probation and softball couldn't go to the College World Series? _

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Josh you did a fine job of explaining APR earlier this year, especially with the info you had you did a fine job.

The missing link was how a coach (any coach) could magically keep a kid or kids at UL and conversely how an administration could exercise a lack of institutional control so as to let a (unnamed) student or group of students hold a schools overall athletic program hostage.

All the administration would have had to do to retain the students was show them how few of players who left the program (before last year) had ever bounced an NCAA ball again. No one would have left.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

Josh you did a fine job of explaining APR earlier this year, especially with the info you had you did a fine job.

The missing link was how a coach (any coach) could magically keep a kid or kids at UL and conversely how an administration could exercise a lack of institutional control so as to let a (unnamed) student or group of students hold a schools overall athletic program hostage.

All the administration would have had to do to retain the students was show them how few of players who left the program (before last year) had ever bounced an NCAA ball again. No one would have left.

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Speculation on everyone's part at best. What else should we expect from an internet chat room. :D

Turbine it is a good bet that we would have lost players. That is just normal. Anytime a coach leaves you always tend to lose some players. My point is that saying no one would have left is highly speculative because the statistics prove otherwise. On the other hand I don't think we would have seen a mass exodus either. If I remember correctly though it would not have taken much to put us over the cliff.

I also thought Josh did a great job on the APR issues. It was explained in detail and not everyone has to agree with retaining the coach but at least we all know how the APR game is played.

I would like to see Josh do some follow ups. One - Will the current volleyball issues negatively impact our APR to any significant extent? What is the real impact of schools like Troy & ULM getting a free pass on the APR?

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Originally Posted by Cajun90

_ Speculation on everyone's part at best. What else should we expect from an internet chat room. :D

Turbine it is a good bet that we would have lost players. That is just normal. Anytime a coach leaves you always tend to lose some players. My point is that saying no one would have left is highly speculative because the statistics prove otherwise. On the other hand I don't think we would have seen a mass exodus either. If I remember correctly though it would not have taken much to put us over the cliff.

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Fair enough, my thinking was with so many finishing their junior year, time was the key factor. With the proper coaching hire they could easily have been talked into staying. Who in their right mind would leave to sit out a year to perhaps play a single year?

Well Jeremy Barr, Emmanuel Adeife, Phillip Jones, David Tanner, Sutton Yanosky did leave, so I don't know. Of course most weren't on scholarship and some never even hit the court.

If you aren't going to go public with what athlete(s) was holding the school hostage then it shouldn't even be brought up as an excuse for retaining the coach.